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Don, jhunts post above explains the same thing I was thinking of when I posted.

Looking back I've never been ask if I'm classifying for a pin or to shoot so how would they know? If you have the answer please be specific and...

Smithy Your posts to me are argumentative and wrote with the sole purpose of harassment and intimidation. I wonder why the Moderators allow this...

So ollie, what were all the banks you shot on this year at the Southern Grand?

If memory serves me correctly the Aussie told them about their correct yardage (I think yardage gain from the Grand) and the classifier said he was...

I think when people watch the big dogs shoot they think those are the preferred banks because the big dogs can break the birds on any bank they draw.

I agree 100% wpt. I would guess they stay silent so they aren't chastised like a few others have been.

Smitty, You sure are interested on where I'm from. Your post is off topic, please stick to the topic at hand.

Whishbone. I can see what you are saying but to me the category shooter should be out of the picture with his win in category.

Larry, Other than here you will hear very little about target settings from years past. Places I shoot are still straightaways from 1 & 5 and hit...

Wishbone, this is a different shooter. Go to the shoot link I provided and check winners in D class singles for the whole shoot. Every place I have...

http://www.rjstuart.com/Trophies/2015/sgrand.htm Iowa guy, I went back and checked and seen my mistake so I removed my post. Apologies if I...

Roger, Actually yes we have. Last year the delegate was voted out and it looks like the new one will be also this year. Reasons are not for...

So you two are on board with the Democrats in changing the US Constitution also? They want to get rid of the way the Senators represent the States...

That also means that each club would have to buy a gambling license from the state. That equates to another expense that most clubs can not afford.

Each and very shooter deserves a equal vote. That means that each state has an equal vote! Each shooter from that state gets their vote through...

Who is left of the original people responsible? Hasn't this problem been traced back to the 70's thru thru 90's? Anyone from that era still in the...

I've seen a whole lot of crying when there were no squads on the first flight and they had to go earlier than they wanted. Best thing ever happened...

Truth be told I hit more hard angles on average than quartering and straightaways. I need to keep the concentration up and eye on the targets better.

Roger, I always seem to get 5 hard rights from post 5 and 5 hard lefts from post 1 every time I shoot. :eek: Will that help average it out? :p Or...

What clubs were cheating? The two names you mentioned can only vouch for the clubs they attended so again, what other clubs were there to support...

If your remarks can't be proven you should delete them. We strive for accurate and truthful statements on this forum.

Calcutta's are illegal. harryone, how does complaining on a website and insulting others help your cause? It might hold water if there was some...

Two of the clubs I shoot at hit the rubber with course sandpaper every day before a registered shoot for grip. I didn't know about the shorter arm...

Hap, one question Take Pat trap, GMV and what ever others are out there throwing the same speed targets, do the pat trap targets have less spin or...

PITA split? Sorry you have me mixed up with someone else. I asked a simple question, please respond with a civilized answer. Your remarks are...

Have you contacted PITA and ask them on their thoughts on change?

I can't find anything on Winchesters website under promotions and rebates. I hope the information is some where else.

You were Roger, Thank You.

Bat, At our little 2 trap club one trap is a Pat trap. We have both traps set on straight aways from posts 1 and 5. We moved the magnets one...

What it is is what it is but you would have thought they could have put a cable or something in the spring so when it broke it was contained. I...

Roger, Am I correct in thinking that a person has a choice between a rubber band or a spring in a new Pat Trap? Does a spring add so much cost that...

Now boys, it's not the Pat traps fault. Its those damn voice calls! How dare they throw consistent targets making them to easy to shoot

Get the clubs in OHIO to shoot these targets for 3 - 5 years and let us know how it goes. Other than that you needed to bring your concerns up why...

What does a "SHOOTING RECORD" have to do with anything. Some of the best coaches in sports can't play as good as their players. But they know how...

Rodger, This is the first I've heard of 8 missing traps, have any creditable information or just hearsay?

How could it be an ultimatum if everyone had the opportunity to refuse the reduction? By the way it wasn't "everyone" who got the opportunity for...

All most people look at is how high the bird is. Only a few will also look to see how far it is flying. Most can't tell if the bird was straight...

8 out of 10 shooters would probably not even notice a switch from 2 hole to 3 hole between sub events.

If thats the case why the negative hype on how Sparta is failing and the ATA management? And before you start your rant I hope the CC does good and...

Thank you for your post.

Doc, did you send one? If so lets see it so the guys who want to send on can have an idea what you want written. If you don't want anyone to see it...

Seeing the letter you sent would give some guys a good format on what you want written. If you don't want to show it please say so.

Rodger, I took it as a choice between the two.

Neil originally accepted in a way no one had to travel very far (post #2) and the Ohio end refused. And it even was for a charity located in Ohio!!

Eddie--I strongly agree. With the constant barrage of negative comments toward him, Neil has rose above the controversy and put himself in the...

Dr Longshot Would you post the letter you wrote to the ATA and state when you sent it

Gargoyle, Where would we today be if the vote moving to Sparta had been no? Please be realistic and not just wishful thinking.

LOL not even close mister, not even close :rolleyes:

I can't help but wonder if you people would be talking like this if the grand was still in Ohio. I bet not!!