"Need to conduct a survey to see how many current and potential trapshooters shoot for money only." ..... already happened for past shooters ........
"that have quit going to ATA shoots, not quit trap shooting" ..... true ..... but many are not as serious about shooting Trap as they were ........
"A lot of it RC" ...... If that is true ...... Look here ........
"The ATA is not the problem." ..... What makes you say that ?????? You keep referring to "the Grand" ... That IS a "ATA" shoot ... so any "problem"...
You still do not get it ..... I DO NOT "worry about the future of the Grand" ..... I "worry" about what the "ATA" has done to organized Trapshooting...
"It is called business opportunity User1." ..... Well, I doubt this "business opportunity" will sell "Jack" a spot in the Hall of Fame for ????...
Well "Mike J" ..... Just for you ..... One more time ...... I have been to and shot at "Sparta" ..... I would NOT SHOOT the "Grand" if it was across...
"They are not looking for Jack to buy the facility just to host more shooting there. " DAMN ..... That Sparta Kool-Aid is dangerous ..... Why would...
FWIW "Mike J" ..... Your "life membership" in the "ATA" keeps you from paying an annual membership ..... and the paper it is on could always be used...
"I am a life member so when the ATA dissolves I'll get my share" ...... really ?????????
Heck ..... there are more people trying to save the place, than shoot there to support it ..... They build a shooting "complex" ..... then put this...
"The LARD made us $19 million and counting rich." ...... Who is this "us" ?????? Are you telling everyone your status in the inner-circle who share...
Look here ..... http://scores.shootata.com/Statistics/Index/1294 ..... It says ..... Total Number of Classified Shooters 3510 ..... 24 H ........
Wonder what would happen if the ATA would stop trying to support their poster boy, and try something different ..... like ..... Pay "guaranteed" 1k...
"HEY DUMMIES ….. IT AINT ABOUT THE SPORT …. IT IS ABOUT GIPSON !!!!" Maybe not ..... how about the idea it could be much harder to sell the inflated...
"Okay, I spoke directly to a past president. $19m in the bank no financial problem." Please tell ignorant people like me what "Bank" that money is...
Where is the rest of the story ???????? I don't give a damn how good someone thinks they are, it takes a lot of time, money, and effort to break a...
A single "stickie" would be so long no one would take the time to read it ..... Enough "stickies" to cover most topics would take too much page...
How about this "story" ?????? This story says ..... when the ATA owned the home grounds, making all "grand" camping and vending fees go directly to...
Does it seem odd, that the "ATA" could take the supposed millions from the ' home grounds sale ', and turn it into tens of millions supposedly using...
Yes ..... Stop feeling the victim and use all the available wisdom to work on a ATA replacement ..... Our glory days didn't just happen, they were...
What I find the most interesting is the reaction to the "story" ..... The reaction seems to go something like this ..... Did you hear about the...
The "D-class" doesn't currently work well in "16-yard singles" for people with the "less than" average ..... So, people who have a 70's average in...
I will help the ATA Pres spread his wisdom ..... I like this part ..... "This is so the money won't be so tight at the top and will trickle down a...
you can find this in cyber-land ..... for those that dont know mr.and mrs.ljutic and family, you should. enjoy this..... Before he became famous for...
The ATA has a very ignorant business practice ..... that is ..... try something, if it doesn't work, it is the fault of the customer, the shooters...
The "numbers" mean a lot ..... If I am a Hedge Fund manager that gets paid for good, bad, or other ..... I will make investments different than if...
No doubt the "best shooter" that day, in that Event will always win ..... The "best shooter", as people think of "best", may not be there ........
"that will only be $48,000.00" ..... Makes a person wonder if it is more about a test, then about the total dollars this time ..... If the over...
"If it is good for Sparta it is good for the ATA." No doubt about that ..... The great thing about the Cardinal Center is ..... they do "GOOD" for...
"Sparta COULD (not only) do well without SCTP" ..... heck, "Sparta is headed in a FANTASTIC DIRECTION" ..... This great advice from "Trapwife" about...
"Museum showcases and preserves the history of our great sport. It is the ONLY facility dedicated to this mission" "This great facility was...
It is great that George is here and willing/able to help ...... There may be other shooters that could benefit from the conversations if they were...
Congrats ..... Who is "George" ?????
Or, you can say something positive about the ATA's Holy Grail-Sparta ..... The worst location in the world has to have something positive ........
Grudge Match 2019 ????? Maybe the 2019 ATA President would want to challenge a "non-shooter" like Mr. Dysinger ..... Or ..... Dr. Longshot vs...
Ljutic made a "reverse montecarlo" stock back in the day ..... Trapshooters seem to purchase anything "new at the time" that is supposed "help" with...
Dollars in the bank ????? or the supposed value of the ATA's Hedge Fund on paper ????????? Dollars generated from increased membership and...
Thought they already had the "marketing" position filled ..... From the land of the lost ..... "Barry Roach" "ATA Regional Promotions Coordinator"
Are you are referring to after-market choke tubes ????? If so ..... they are as individually unique as snowflakes ..... brand-X .030 may be better...
Maybe to some who feel the content of a thorn-in-side website could be better controlled by the tactics in that article .....
No need to "play" ..... and no need for "some silly sarcasm match" ...... I will provide this link ........
Click his link for "lemming" ...... then go back and read it all again ...... A childish attempt to imply the misuse of "lemming" ..... Par4 only...
Try reading the post again Par4 ..... you may have some reading comprehension problems ..... And look a little harder into your search for a pissing...
Do tell ...... because it sounds interesting ...... Did the "IDNR" purchase their targets from White Flyer ?????? How do they keep their targets...
It should be telling to the ATA lemmings, that NOT ONE OF THEM seems to be willing to contest their 2019 ATA President being called a "target...
It is a shame Par4, that you feel the current ATA leadership can do nothing to deter your personal needs ..... You have to live with the fact that...
Well Par4 ..... you may want to re-think your "innocent third parties" view ..... ANYONE who chooses to support the "responsible individuals", with...
"However, government intervention can really screw things up in many instances." What would be your concern about "government intervention really...
More from July 4, 2016 ...... Here says the future ATA property was worth "$27,601" in "03-14-2011" ........
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