Kool Aid Shortage?

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by langer, Oct 19, 2015.

  1. langer

    langer Well-Known Member

    I used to love getting up in the morning and reading the banter from the Kool Aid servers of the ATA. They always seemed to put up a half reasoned argument.

    Are the pitchers empty? Is the battle too far gone?
     
  2. rookieshooter

    rookieshooter Mega Poster Forum Leader

    Half empty...I dunno?
     
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  3. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Its truly a shame that it all has come to pass, but it was going to happen sooner or later any way ... The kool aid crew had no idea what they were talking about yet they never shut up, many of them have never been to Vandalia and have no idea what everyone else is talking about when the sites are to be compared ... Vandalia was no doubt out dated and old, there was something about it and the people that made you feel welcome and like you belonged there ... The ATA knew back as far as 1973 that the hammer was going to fall on the site in Vandalia but did nothing to make plans for a move in the future, though I read they did look at the site in Lynn Creek, Mo and back burnered it ... The WSRC could very well open for the grand in 2016, seriously doubt it though as the States troubles continue to grow and it gets worse every day ... Nothing being said if the ATA is seeking an other place to host the grand in 2016 or not, but that's not unusual that there is a gross lack of communication ... The ATA likes to keep the people who can make it or break it in the dark and they feel they report to no one and owe no one any explanations ... Time will tell and the ATA will be surprised when the members ignore them as they have done to the members ... If they move the grand to the Cardinal Center they will have an attendance like they haven't seen in a long time even if its just as an I told you so type thing ... We will see when the time comes, until then we can sit back and laugh at the clowns dancing on kool aid ... I think its time for Lynn ( the Talking Head ) Gipson to give another few words of encouragement to the members so they don't lose faith ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  4. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    All's quiet on the home front. Additional information will be provided when made available. Simply stated-nothing's happening!!
     
  5. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Gee WPT,

    It was only a few short years ago that I received an unsigned note from who I suspected to be an ATA big wig that stated to me:

    "WE don't have time to answer every question posed by the membership. WE notify the membership on what we feel is a NEED TO KNOW basis".

    Truly, that was the content of the note...

    And, I have to believe they blew their chances to have the GAH move to Cardinal Center.
     
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  6. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    BF(IH),
    There is a problem when any organization ignores the very people who are or could be the total support of same ... It would be unrealistic for each and every member to expect to get a letter explaining each move but moves that can have an impact on the future existence of the ATA can and should be posted on their web site for all to see, this is the age of technology and it should be used to inform the members with the push of a button ... They continue to act as if their agenda is the only one and ignore the members totally and completely ... To have an ED just keep saying the same thing over and over makes absolutely no sense at all especially when everyone knows the statements are not based on fact and those who know the actual figures include the ones you are trying to convince what a benefit the Association is to the local economy and region, (besides making the ED look like a complete and total fool) ... The ATA (EC and BOD) is the one who created the situation be that as it may and the result is directly proportioned to their lacking of leadership and knowing what they are doing ... Their is a wealth of information available to them at little or no cost if they asked those who would know for sure what to do for guidance ... The members of the ATA are a very vast and knowledgeable group of people who sincerely do care what happens to the Organization and the future of same ... The transparency has been eliminated and the EC and some of the BOD seem to have reason to hide things from the members ... I always say hide nothing if you have nothing to hide and that is not the case with the current EC, BOD ( some of ) and the ED from the way it looks ... I guess we will all find out in due time but in the mean time things keep mounting that cause suspicion and rightfully so ...

    I would not blame the folks at Cardinal Center or any other club if they avoid assisting the ATA in providing an escape for blunders they have made based on the way they have responded to the members and clubs (NOT) in the past ... Clubs that have the facility's and desire should draw up a lease agreement and submit them to the ATA, the ATA seems to have a problem understanding them so the clubs could leave a lot of blank spaces to be filled in at a later date ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

    The Delegates from each and every state could noticfy their members if its to much trouble for the ATA to post it ...