I have a custom Wenig RH wood set that is for the standard rib barrels. I just installed a new Kick-EEZ pad and new style rosettes in the forearm. The LOP with existing pad and trigger blade in middle position is 14 1/2" . No dings or scratches (( $1500 Delivered to your address in the Lower 48 )) Any questions please send a conv message for info and contact # -- Thanks Bob