Just sittin' in the shop getting dusty..... #4 Wood only 15 3/4" from heal to longest of the top. 15 1/4" wood only to the head of the stock where wood meets the receiver. No cast heal / 3/8" cast toe. Have no idea about the drop. #3 Wood only 15" from heal to longest of the top. 14 5/8" wood only to the head of the stock where wood meets the receiver. No cast heal / 1/8" cast toe. Have no idea about the drop. Take your pick $350......take them both for $500. No forends. Guy Hungerford Pm is fine.