Another should have been posted a few years ago at the Home Grounds. Please ~~ Don't shoot rabbits from the shit-house Thank You
Please do not shoot the shit house until you make sure no one is in them … THANK YOU the Management ... WPT … (YAC) ...
What about this year at the Cardinal Classic. PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT THE TRAP HELP IN HIS HEAD!!! Hope the ATA will look into this!!
The sign in that building gipson found WHEN THE STATE MAKES US MOVE, PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FOOT AGAIN
Did This Actually Happen? I Shot There For A Few Days During The Cardinal Classic And Did Not Hear About This. Can Anyone Confirm? Kind Of Bad Taste To Bring Something Like This Up On A Trapshooting Forum For Anyone To Interpret Any Way They Wish.
"Yes it did! Notice the silence in the crowd. They are not asking for proof on this one." (somebody needs to call Nurse Ratched)
I was right there. It didn't look like much could hurt that numbskull. Anyone who jumps out of the top of a traphouse, sans flag, was lucky it was only a scratch. I have nothing more to offer.
Well, for the good of the game I hope the ATA investigate exactly what happened, why it happened and what should be done to prevent it in the future. Plenty eyewitnesses were around.
Maybe while they're at it, they can figure out who waxed Epstein. And where Jimmy Hoffa is. And Amelia Earhart. And The Loch Ness Monster. And Puff, The Magic Dragon...and...and...
Morning meeting Make SURE that when you are coming out of the house you put the flag up FIRST You can't fix stupid Relative of yours j ?
And then, maybe they can figure out where THOF Bldg. went. And the incorporation documents for Pull2012...and...and...
"plenty eyewitnesses were around". Describe what constitutes "plenty"! Again, you weren't there-I was at the trap. Please describe your interpretation of "plenty".
I don't believe a guy getting knocked off his feet would just end up with a scratch. Plenty means more than you.
Best check the dictionary for the definition of "plenty" since you seem to have issues with words and meanings. Last time I decked a guy with one punch he got knocked off his feet. Some guys get knocked off their feet more easily than others. Well, maybe he simply ducked a bit late-not very obvious when he was standing behind the traphouse. See, you know squat along with your "plenty".
You weren't an eye witness. You have proved to everybody here that you misrepresent the truth. Now you are trying misrepresent second hand information to serve your own pathetic needs. Has anybody ever called you a liar before?
That has to be the biggest pipe-dream wish of 2019 ..... What a shame the great graph-maker can not post the long drawn out procedure to "report" ANYTHING to the beloved ATA. Then wait for the once a year party in BFE Sparta, to see if they can make any money off whatever it is ..... NOW ..... If whatever happened can be used to put the ATA poster-boy back on top of the AA points ..... then you may get their attention ..... Again "Mike J" doesn't understand his ATA ..... The host Club's problems are of NO INTEREST, unless it feeds the personal interest of those in control of the ATA .....
Caution: Do Not Drive Through the Shot Curtains, Use the new Roadway to the Sporting Clay Course. GB.................................DLS
Why does the ATA need to Investigate it? Morrow County Sheriffs Office is perfectly Capable of an Investigation. Those rules are posted inside the Trap-Houses PUT FLAG UP BEFORE EXITING GB..........................DLS
No need to get upset oleolli. I have good intentions here for the good of the sport. Didn't hear me calling to close any place down. Plenty means the other shooters on the squad with the guy who turned around and told the scorer "I shot him," the guy that got shot squad on deck and onlookers. The ATA can ask for eye witness if it wants to investigate this incident, which it should for the good of the sport.
The ATA has nothing to do with investigations into incidents at participating gun clubs. Heck, some of 'em barely graduated from high school and certainly have little if any knowledge of law enforcement. Just look into the inner workings of the organization in the past and what was pushed under the rug. The local sheriff thoroughly investigated the incident and made a report. So, what good for the sport do you believe getting the ATA involved would accomplish? Enough said!
It has NOTHING to do with the "good of the sport". This guy just has a hardon for OH shooters and how great the Cardinal Center is doing and is looking to throw any crap against the wall that he can. That is GREAT! Like User 1 said, trolls are good to have on a site. When was the last time we had anyone on here acting like this guy? Leonidas maybe? sparta sidney went away and I think he took sparta#2 with him. That garage gunsmith lasted about 3 days, IQ44 just lurks and doesn't have the balls to post, and now mikej or whoever he is calling himself, has come along to bless us with ALL his trap shooting wisdom and "the CC isn't as great as you all think and the OH shooters ruined the grand" mentality. For as smart as this guy claims to be you would think he has some sort of degree from someplace prestigious, like a college in, oh I don't know, Guyana or someplace like that. He is actually pretty pathetic and if you read my other post you will see I described his type perfectly. He read it
Oleollie, the Cardinal Classic is an ATA sanctioned event. You have to be smarter than what you stated here. I don't have the time to get into lengthy discussions to explain where I am coming from. I expect intelligent people like you to understand what I mean.
Just what exactly is stopping you from "reporting" this to the ATA ?????? It seems you assume no ATA officials attended this shoot ..... So tell everyone why you just choose to whine about it here ..... Again ..... what is your personal gain in all this ..... you seem to always avoid that question .....
The ATA could exist on the daily fees collected by the clubs at the registered shoots, they might have to trim some fat and do away with some of the freebies and benefits (paid expenses) for the ED, EC, and some of the BOD, but it could be done (Reorg) ... This is old news, one problem is many of the clubs that used to host registered shoots do not do it any more and have turned to recreational shooting (cheap practice ) and or fun and games, club shoots etc ... If the clubs hosting the bigger shoots eliminated the expense of paying the ATA for their involvement (ATA trophy's) and make it added money (non registered) they could possibly have as good or an even better turn out ... This almost happened one year at the Old Phoenix Club before it closed because the ATA wanted us to do a remodel on a building that was going to be torn down not far into the future, which was part of the charm of the place ... The ATA and grand are obviously not the attraction they once were based on attendance ... The reasons for this turn about is many thing have changed that did not sit right with some of the membership, the majority of that being location, additional travel etc ... The ATA exists because the clubs support them, not because the ATA supports the clubs ... Cardinal Center or any of the Clubs could have a Monthly money shoot and pack the house, the WSRC can't pack the house for what was once the biggest handicap event of the year (grand) , that has to tell people something ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
AGAIN, I answered your personal gain question many times! I am here because of my interest in trapshooting and I will not allow anyone to post lies about the Grand once I am still a member here. You may note for the majority of the year I don't post here. I am not looking for a hang out spot. I will ask my delegate when I see him about the shooting incident which I consider to be serious.
Duh, the ATA sanctions all ATA events. Heck, they couldn't even police target setting rules for years or keep members informed on many important items that needed discussion. Alright, I confess, many years ago at our ATA affiliated club a young shooter had an accidental discharge, pellets hit the traphouse, bounced back, one struck him in the leg and slightly imbedded itself. Now I know I should have notified the ATA target police immediately thanks to you. Let's not even discuss all the guns that blew up through the years with slight injuries where the ATA was never notified. So you're telling us we're supposed to fly a bunch of overweight ATA target police to OH, wine and dine 'em for a few days and have them question the Sheriff who wrote the report. Voted for Hillary too I see?
It is your duty to report this travesty. If you are not going to report this matter to the ATA, there is someone here who is going to report you for malfeasance and criminal neglect to your delegate in NY. You can also be charged with witness tampering and submitting a false accident report. Your delegate can surely attest to your character and your perceived mental condition. All eyes are on you. You can save the world, but you must act.
Had the person been killed even OSHA might have gotten involved! I know of one gun club that was threatened to be shut down because one bullet left the club and struck someone's home because of a careless shooter. What happens if the trap help decides to sue? Do you think he will be going after just the CC? He might want to but his lawyer will go after all parties that can be sued. Get it?
Mike J. You seem to be hung up on "Lies about the grand and or ATA ", pray tell man point out what has been said that is in fact lies and we can research them and sort it all out for you ... You talk about defending the grand, and your interest in trapshooting like you are the only person who has or ever has had an interest or soft spot in their heart for trapshooting ... The facts remain we all have had that same interest, desire, and love for the sport at some time until things got changed and the membership was ignored as the ATA turned its back on the members ... You nit pick bull shit that does not even matter to avoid answering legitimate questions asked of you ... You do not read and or acknowledge that you have read articles posted to prove some of the statements you have made or been told by other who should know are not true (Think Illinois Budget) ... You run off like a run away train going no place because you are so intent on defending something that was dear to all of us at one time ... I read some of what you say and think, this has to be a kid trying to get attention that he is not getting elsewhere ... Be SPECIFIC, point out all of the lies ... Tell us more about the Illinois budget that does not exist to balance out the States load of debt so they can invest in the State Parks and keep them safe for recreational activities ... The budget that was passed was not a balanced budget and in fact was up side down by over 10.2 Billion dollars ... Personally, I think you should be banned because you add nothing of value to this site, but that is not my call ... If you do not answer the questions I posed to you I will try diligently to get you banned, that is a PROMISE ... Then you can go back to the Kiddie pool and play ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
Maybe somebody should send an email to the NY delegate and report this lawless coward for dereliction of duty in the face of extreme falicipity. This is outrageous.
Quite frankly, this is none of your or my business. Don't you think it's time to get a life? I was there, saw the result and saw how it was capably handled. Time to move on and prepare yourself for when the grand moves to Cardinal Center in the future.
You are pushing your luck ..... Tell what "lies" you can prove, with actual facts, or retract the insinuation that people here are telling wilful "lies" about the "grand" .... Your useful idiot phase has just about ran it's course ..... so, answer what "lies" you refer to, while you still can .....
What luck??? Don't waste my time. See the thread Merlot started and the comments therein. Again don't waste my time.
That would be the luck given to you by someone making a phone call to me ...... I don't expect the second phone call ..... but, I will give you, against my better judgement, a chance to provide your proof of these "lies" ..... Again, you have a choice to be forced to leave here looking the fool you are ..... or, change your direction so you didn't waste your own time ..... your choice .....
OOPS! C'mon mikej, do the right thing and don't get bounced.That would make me very unhappy. The next troll might not be as easy as you. LOL
To the Top for WPT and his research. Did anyone else notice that in a related link spot it said "American Trapshooitng Association"? Who are they? WPT was that you or the state of Illinois' wording? I can understand if it was yours because having, like me having to type all that out, making a slip is easy, or was it a slip?
I thought AMERICAN was changed to AMATEUR way back around 1923 or so ? 1923 - American Trapshooting Association later became Amateur Trapshooting Association. Yes Brad, that was one of the first things I saw. Boy, someone is way behind the times...LOL