Grand Slams

Here are some interesting numbers on the Grand Slams. The first Grand Slam was completed in 1964 by Dan Orlich. From 1964 through target year 2018 there are 487 shooters who have completed the Grand Slam.

1964-1968 - 4 shooters
1969-1978 - 16 shooters
1979-1988 - 47 shooters
1989-1998 - 163 shooters
1999-2008 - 173 shooters
2009-2018 - 84 shooters
Total 487 shooters with Grand Slams

Percentages
1964 to 1988 - 13.8%
1989 to 1998 - 33.4%
1999 to 2008 - 35.6%
2009 to 2018 - 17.2%
Total _______100.0%

Base on the above numbers/percentages, is it fair to say that ATA trapshooting has been dumb down by slower and narrower targets ?

 

Are you saying that the 4 shooters from 1964 - 1968 equal 13.8% of the total 487 shooters with Grand Slams?

 

No, look at my Percentages groups. I am saying the 67 grand slams from 1964-1988 is 13.8 percent of the total 487 grand slams.

 

64-68 is only 4 years
69- present is in 9 year increments.
Doesn't that make the percentages off?

 

NO!

 

Grand slams should be tapering off now. Anyone that wanted one got one over the last decade. (assuming they did their paperwork). Except for Neil of course. 85 average on caps. Graph that thought.

 

THANKS!!!

 

Not 1968; 1988.

 

How many shooters were shooting in 64 compared to now?

 

How many GS's during the Grand American week?

 

Rookie, please clarify your question. Are you asking how many completed their last leg of their Grand Slam during the Grand America week or how many completed all three legs during the Grand American week ? If you are asking how many completed their last leg of their Grand Slam during the Grand America week, you can come pretty close by doing a search on the ATA website search box for the wordingr "Grand Slam". Then count the number of Grand Slams where the last leg was completed during the dates of the Grand America week.

 

All 3 legs during GA week. I'll check the ATA website.

 

That would be a "Grand American - Grand Slam", and an interesting piece of information. I wonder if it could have unofficially happened before 1964?

 

Yep, I see it now.

The top chart went from 1964-1968
The bottom chart went 1964- 1988

An optical illusion on my old eyes. Maybe I should go to the Neil Winston school for chart reading.

 

I have the same problem and on top of that I had major eye surgery on Dec. 26th on my left eye.

 

Most Grand slams were completed on the 17 Degree Handicap targets, as most already had their 200 singles and 100 doubles, the difficulty was the Handicaps. Always has been and always will be, any handicap is more difficult, but there ia s great difference when you shoot a 45 Degree handicap, than a 17 degree Handicap, puusy target.

GB..................................DLS

 

Last leg numbers
Doubles - 30 shooters
Singles - 37 shooters
Handicap - 420 shooters
Total shooters with Grand Slams - 487

 

OH man, I almost choked on my coffee when I read this one. I'm going to save that in my favorites and every now and then, when I need a chuckle, I'll read it.

Maybe that is why all the charts, graphs, and school lessons?

THOSE THAT CAN'T DO, TEACH!

Or in his case, TRY and teach. If any of his BS worked HE would be a better shot.

Dysinger was right

 

If you are asking how many shooters completed all 3 legs during the Grand American week in the same year, the answer is zero. According to the listing of Grand Slams on the ATA website, only 2 shooters have completed 2 of the 3 legs in the same year.

 

Eye surgery! Not what I would call a good Christmas gift. I hope you heal up quickly so you can hit those 45 degree angles the "other Gary" is advocating.

 

I remember Ricky breaking Monday's Singles, Tuesdays Doubles & Tuesdays Handicap, so he did do a "Grand American Grand Slam".

 

Hi Eric, please confirm that you are referring to Richard Marshall Jr.. If that is correct, then here's what the ATA website shows him completing his last leg was shot on June 26, 1998 during a handicap event.

RICHARD MARSHALL JR. NE JUNE 26 HANDICAP

 

The answer is not ZERO. Ricky Marshall Jr did it in 2005.....

 

Hi Eric, please confirm that you are referring to Richard Marshall Jr.. If that is correct, the ATA website shows him completing his last leg was shot on June 26, 1998 during a handicap event.

RICHARD MARSHALL JR. NE JUNE 26 HANDICAP

Maybe the ATA website only reflects a shooter's first grand slam - ???

 

Yup, I believe the problem arises that they don't count a "second" leg, ie, if Ricky had a previous 200 or 100 before that week, it would not be said to have done it all in the week of the GA, even though he did shoot those scores in that one week. Another way to look at it is you shoot a 200 in one year, then 3 years later you shoot a 200, 100hd and 100 dbs, they still would NOT say you did it in one year. Hope this makes sence

 

BINGO, The ATA website only does the 1st....

 

Eric, thanks for clearing this up. If a shooter has more than one grand slam, it would be nice to see their total number of grand slams in parenthesis behind their name.

 

They look at it as "first completed" .....

That would be the "first time" a shooter had the three perfect scores needed ...... The "odds" of a shooter breaking their "first" 200, 100, and 100 during "Grand week" would be next to impossible .....

There are some shooters who may have 50-200's, 30-100 dbls, and 15-100 caps ..... you could say they have 15 "Grand Slams", the lowest number of perfect scores to make "sets" ..... then the number of "Grand Slams" would look even worse than now .....