ALERT: Fellow ATA Trap Shooters.

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by Lew D. Boyko, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. Lew D. Boyko

    Lew D. Boyko Active Member

    I have peeked in at Trapshooters a couple of time since Americantrapshooter.com
    came on board. Today I looked again and scrolled up and down and not one thread about
    the 70,000 to 100,000 targets that the ATA disqualified. It is getting that most of the
    items on the other site are not even trap shooting related. There are titles about such things as Blind Dates, cool airplanes,drones,help me plan my summer trip and other such junk..

    It makes me wonder just how lucky we are to have Americantrapshooters.com on board for us Trapshooters. Beware: do not le the management or ownership of this site fall into
    the wrong hands like the other site did.
    Thanks go out to Gentleman and Women for getting Americantrapshooters up and running

    Lew D. Boyko Minnesota
     
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  2. GW22

    GW22 Mega Poster Founding Member

    Somebody at the club last week was saying that in addition to that site being completely polluted with ads, members are already being shaken down for money. If you don't pay, you "lose features." Not sure what that means, and I don't care, but it does prove that what so many said would happen is in fact happening. Pay to play.

    Thanks for this forum, group.

    -Gary
     
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  3. Michael McGee

    Michael McGee Mega Poster Founding Member

    There was a thread on the site mentioned above about the cheating and loss of targets and it disappeared one day. I saw the ATA had purchased a banner ad with the new owners in which mabee gives them some influence on controling the board. If not, there are plenty of mods and members over there that needs to spit and not swallow when it comes to blindly following the leaders of the ATA.
     
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  4. Lew D. Boyko

    Lew D. Boyko Active Member

    "there are plenty over there that needs to spit and not swallow when it comes to blindly following the leaders of the ATA."

    Mr. McGee, I like that saying

    Birddog
     
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  5. Leonidas

    Leonidas Mega Poster Founding Member

    The targets fiasco had been beat to death at ts.com already.

    The "help me plan my vacation" thread was a guy asking for places to shoot across Florida which is not out of line. If you remember correctly our good dr longshot had a thread looking for a female hookup a while back on the other website.

    You are correct about a bunch of junk threads and the money shakedown.

    On another note this website is thriving on anti- ATA posts but eventually that will die down. The big question is will it drive enough potential members away that this website will also die with it? Even in agreement, a subject will turn against the messenger if thats all there is to offer.
     
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  6. AZCOTRAP

    AZCOTRAP Mega Poster Founding Member

    Mr. Boyko,

    Are you sure? I looked and saw the "drones" and "blind date" threads were in the "Off Topics" sections and the "pay for features" has been dropped and the features restored to the users.
     
  7. Fezzik

    Fezzik Active Member

    Lew - this subject has been covered on the other site months ago. This is not new news. Also, most of the threads you referenced are in the off topic section. This site has one too, with some of the same posters.

    Michael - As to the deleted thread, it was deleted by the original poster. I know because I asked him. To quote "I deleted it. I got tired of former ATA president Neil Winston being a smug prick and prioritizing the process over the integrity of the game. The process doesn't matter if the membership goes away." So no conspiracy there.
     
  8. Lew D. Boyko

    Lew D. Boyko Active Member

  9. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    The 'other-site' reminds me of some 'Trade-Shows' ... charge people to park, charge everyone to enter, charge the vendors to 'set-up', charge anyone who will pay to advertise, get a 'cut' of food sales, and any other way to squeeze out as much money as possible ... and then may have no interest in the 'theme' of the show. It really ran off the rails when, as one person put it, some of the main posters had more posts on the site, than life-time clay targets shot. And they knew more about everything than anyone else. And would start with the childish replies if you didn't agree with them. Then the decision to re-ban the person generating the highest number of views on any thread, makes no sense in the business of drawing attention to your investment.

    The 'interest' in viewing 'cyber-chat' is to gain information, and/or see opposing views on each topic. If everyone would always agree, it would 'dry-up'.

    The key is the 'owners' having an interest in the theme, and control the disagreements. Both of which they are doing a very good job here.
     
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  10. leftout

    leftout Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Of course you can come here and see the same threads discussed every day by the same 10 posters. Maybe 5 to 10 threads opened for the day. Why don't you worry about making your Ohio web site better instead of the same posters grousing about the same things and saying false things.

    Lew you just spread pure BS about the other site. They have more posters posting in a day about more things than this site does in week. I am still waiting for some good, informative threads about trapshooting.

    I see someone started a rumor about Sparta closing, now that is a real upbeat trap subject.

    Lefty
     
  11. docbombay

    docbombay Active Member

  12. Lew D. Boyko

    Lew D. Boyko Active Member

    Lefty, do not talk to me about posting BS, you go over to the other site and post you BS there. They may have more posters, but it is the
    same old clucking old hens talking about pitty stuff and going around and around in a circle. Left, you sound like someone from Buffalo MN.
     
  13. Ken Cerney

    Ken Cerney HOF Muscoda Gun Club Past Wisconsin Director Founding Member HOF Muscoda Gun Club

    I go to TS.Com to get my political news and check for sale items.
     
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  14. AZCOTRAP

    AZCOTRAP Mega Poster Founding Member

    Mr Boyko,

    Wow, what an attitude. Just asking a question. I think it all the same on this site and others, just depends on what color lens you have on.

    Poisonous diatribe is not limited to just TS.com. When this site started up, the first threads by the site owners promised something new fresh and different. Smells like the same old stink to me. Wild exaggerated claims supported with non factual rumors and character assassination.


    Just strikes me odd, you create a thread which is not trap shooting related about another site with threads about non trapshooting issues. Think about that.

    I would tell you who I am if it really was important, but have we keep getting reminded by the moderator and others not to use our real names.

    The site prohibits disclosing another member's personal information. The site strongly encourages members not to use their real names or email addresses. If you decide to exchange that information we advise you do so privately. M1
     
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  15. Michael McGee

    Michael McGee Mega Poster Founding Member

    Leftin, if the other site is so great, what are you doing here?
     
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  16. MODERATOR 1

    MODERATOR 1 Administrator Staff Member

    We need people like leftout here as well.
     
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  17. Lew D. Boyko

    Lew D. Boyko Active Member

    okay, I'll buy that
     
  18. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Absolutely! Like the saying goes,

    It Takes All Kinds

    Flyersarebest
     
  19. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    From what someone just posted about that old site,

    I'll buy that...

    Is the new slogan over there

    Flyersarebest
     
  20. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    "I am still waiting for some good, informative threads about trapshooting."

    Ask away, there are plenty of guys on here that have shot tens of thousands of Trap targets and that is just the "registered" ones. Since those targets are not the ONLY kind many of us have shot the total number could be ten times that. I'm pretty sure any questions you have would be answered.

    What part of your Trap shooting game do you need the MOST help with?

    Flyersarebest
     
  21. oicu812

    oicu812 Guest

    Try as it may, this site will never surpass 'Gump' status. . .
     
  22. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Nice try, but pick another movie.
    Turned out Forrest was a pretty stand up guy that did quite well for himself.

    Instead of that box of chocolates the ATA , well at least the delegate with the balls to look into it, opened a can of worms.

    Flyersarebest
     
  23. MODERATOR 1

    MODERATOR 1 Administrator Staff Member

    Oooops......he is listed on a national data base on a blacklist. It is a bad IP address. Shameful! :eek:

    I am amazed what lengths people will reach to keep another from expressing an opinion.
     
  24. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Just when I was about to tell him

    RUN 812, RUN

    Flyersarebest
     
  25. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Squatty, 71/2's always 71/2s. Brad
     
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  26. Wishbone

    Wishbone Mega Poster

    I think there is probably enough room on the World Wide Web for 2 trapshooting discussion sites.:D:D:D
     
  27. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    You are a Leader of that DIATRIBE YOU SPEAK OF, KEEP THIS SITE CLEAN AND INFORMATIVE LIKE IT WAS STARTED
    Dr.longshot
     
  28. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    I thought is was BIG DOG
     
  29. AZCOTRAP

    AZCOTRAP Mega Poster Founding Member

    You are right Dr. LongShot, it was wrong for Mr. Boyko to start this thread which is contrary to keeping it clean and informative. I think the whole thing should be deleted, don't you?
     
  30. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Does this mean he doesn't want an ATC shirt?
     
  31. Fezzik

    Fezzik Active Member

    Lew -

    If you dislike folks like Azcotrap so much, and think so little of their opinions, why go fishing for them? Is it just to argue?

    Seems like you are admitting to intentionally creating an uninformative thread, just to muckrake.
     
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  32. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Leftout - - - -It must really frost your britches that these folks have a venue wherein they can give an opinion about a sport they love. The bet was on that the site would not last a month. Then it was discovered they paid for the site for 3 years in advance. Then the news came out that ATC has a sister domain. And again more news...it is a group project! Ugggh!

    I bet with all that info it is tough to keep your bowels soft. Got exlax?
     
  33. AZCOTRAP

    AZCOTRAP Mega Poster Founding Member

    Scumbag???

    Well, I see this site is no different than the other, even though it was promised to be.

    I'll ban myself and make this my last post.
     
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  34. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    AZCO...have you given an idea yet on an ATC shirt design?
     
  35. deepbackwoods

    deepbackwoods Active Member

    Poisonous diatribe is not limited to just TS.com. When this site started up, the first threads by the site owners promised something new fresh and different. Smells like the same old stink to me. Wild exaggerated claims supported with non factual rumors and character assassination.


    Just strikes me odd,you create a thread which is not trap shooting related about another site with threads about non trapshooting issues. Think about that.



    It appears that this site is degrading towards similar atmosphere as the one being complained about so consistently. It took the other site 15 years to descend to its present climate (approx. 2012) and this site hasn't reached its 2 month birthday and look at many of the posts. Especially longshots with his continual drivel, false statements, constant belittlement, personal negative statements (NW) and yet he seems cuddled here for his efforts.

    All I am saying is watch what's happening here before you surpass what you criticise!

     
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  36. Ken Cerney

    Ken Cerney HOF Muscoda Gun Club Past Wisconsin Director Founding Member HOF Muscoda Gun Club

    There is only a few that post some crap and that is not all the time. We still have a great site here.
     
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  37. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Sometimes Kentucky 9"s are the best choice for hard, hard targets ( 4's and 5's). Brad
     
  38. deepbackwoods

    deepbackwoods Active Member

    Did you use them often?lol
     
  39. leftout

    leftout Well-Known Member Founding Member

    It just depends whose opinions they are.

    Lefty
     
  40. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Only when necessary.
     
  41. oldphart

    oldphart Mega Poster Founding Member

    Kinda off topic from the original post, let's all leave personalities out of our discussions if we can.
     
  42. mudpack

    mudpack Mega Poster Founding Member

    Do you really think that's possible?