Just curious but how many of you have a figure 8 sight picture? How many people do not and what do you prefer??
Mine looks like o o with a gap between them equal to the size of a bead, with the rib all the way down Those two, together create an 18" high POI
I look flat down the rib and if I were looking at my beads (I never look at them I look out for the target) there would only be one visible, my gun shoots 100% high that way. I would also adjust my stock higher if I was shooting high targets. Brad
My bead sits atop this little riser for that 100+ pattern. Extra long comb posts allowed the comb to be raised to that point but I didn't like looking at that huge gap between the beads and the whole rib. This now makes it appear I am looking straight down the rib when mounted, and after that I concentrate on the target only.
I am not the best singles shooter by any measure but I recently had a new soft comb built and my sight picture is a little different from when I used the original comb - maybe because they are not the exact dimensions?? I adjust my comb by using spacers until I crush the targets. The main thing I look for is to be able to keep my head upright and not to "kink" my neck to look for a specific sight picture like a "figure 8". The sight picture is whatever it is after I find what comb height makes me crush the targets. Brad - nice to see you comment on this thread. I am hoping that you could share tips with us when topics such as these arise.
I installed an add-a-rib and purposely did not install a mid bead. I found looking at and worrying about how much space there was between the beads, to be very distracting. I see a lot of rib when I mount the gun and I just check to see that I am not canting. With this setup my eyes more easily move beyond the front bead out to my soft focus point and has cured me from bead checking.
My opinion on the center bead It is installed by the manufactures for anyone can pick up one of there guns and shot it . Even if it doesn't fit them %100. --My thinking is bsd is shooting his gun with a wide bead space is because his comb is high, or he set it high ,for a higher shooting gun but he doesn't have a adjustable rib .Brad lines up his bead because of a high priced, truly fitted gun with adjustable comb and rib -- Brads friend -- Like me, found a way to find a reference point different from the center bead at a cost less than adding a adjustable rib -- It all comes down to what sight picture you want and see for you to break targets.
Back in the day We also did a trick to get a poor man's high rib gun. We would take a lolly pop stick, paint it flat black and stick a bead on it and then stick it over the center bead with two sided tape. (had to have an adjustable stock from Berlet to allow this)This allowed me to see if I liked a higher shooting gun and then in late 1984 I had Tom Wilkinson rib my pigeon 682 gun the way I described it. I wanted to learn to shoot it for pigeons so in 1985 I shot that gun, 30 o/u, for everything including handicap. That year I broke my 14th 200 straight of the summer, killed a 25 at Holford's and broke a 100 from the 27 at Harold's club in Reno all within 11 days. I also broke all the singles at the grand and had a run of 1400 straight or so over the summer. Being the trap shooter I was the next season I started shooting a 34 in single bbl. I was looking for that perfect gun, and never stopped until I quit ATA. Today when I go to the meat shoots I shoot that 682 o/u or a model 12 for fun. Brad
When I see a ice cream cone with three scoops, on station 3, on straight away's, on the 16. Then I turn the target to dust, obliterated, inked, smoked, etc.. That's when I know that the gun is right for me, and I never look again on any yardage. That's just my system, and it works for me. I believe in the KISS method.
As you get older and your mount is not perfect like it was when you were young. It is best to have either a figure eight or stack the beads. That way if you need to check the alignment you have a solid check point to go by. Before adjustable ribs. I would raise my comb until I had the POI where I wanted it then I would move the center bead forward until I had them stacked with a figure eight. Then I would put black finger nail polish on both beads. I still shoot my K gun with the beads backed out. If I need to I can still check my alignment. Roger C.
I never was the type of shooter that liked to see rib. I'm left eyed dominate and shoot with both eyes open and when I look down on the rib my left eye really wants to take over and I'll cross fire some times. I really do it if a gun doesn't fit me. In fact now that I'm older I shoot a rifle left handed most of the time and shoot birds like ducks and doves left handed about half the time. I don't shoot left handed though if I have to snap shoot I've to many years of right handed trap experience that takes over. It's funny that when I shoot trap left handed I like a lower point of impact but can see rib on a gun and it doesn't bother me.
Brad, You should practice left handed, after all most lefties are true gentlemen and never complain, about any thing. They are also nicer looking than most righties and smarter and easier to get along with. I'm not over stating the great people that lefties am I? If you see the rib you are not locked onto the target, at least that was in my case. Roger C.
Brad's Friend: That is what I did on my Ljutic, only it is on the Step of the rib, and it shoots 18" + inches high. GB...................................DLS
Yeah but none of that matters. You don't shoot registered targets anymore so you're nothing but a "has been". You're not a "real trap shooter". Real trap shooters go to that place in IL. and shoot the grand American, the greatest..... And on top of all that you cheated because you used your brain and figured out how to read those old hand sets. You didn't play "fair". Oh, never mind, I can't even bring myself to write any more if this crap.