My pals in the trenches say the ATA needs $$$$ for the summer shoots. Does the ATA think they have the ability to keep the WSRC floating? Will they need someone to rescue them? What is the status of the grand? (yes I used all non caps) No SCTP has to hurt. Information please. I report. You decide. Merlo out
My guess is if the ATA is looking for funds to run the summer shoots is that they don't want to use the Funds they have as they want to save the "CASH COW" for themselves. But that's just me.
What summer shoots? The ATA has only 1 shoot. If you want to include the other 2 at the WSRC 3 at most. What others does the ATA need money for?
Tshot, The bills do not stop in the summer time for any business, including the ATA. The employees still must be paid, phone, electric, water, and up keep on the property. But most of all the EC must have their KITTY to finance their shooting expenses over the summer. Roger C.
Oldphart said ( the summer shoots ) not running the ATA. Our daily fee & annual memberships pay for the day to day stuff. I'm not so sure about any KITTY getting funded!
Oldphart said ( the summer shoots ) not running the ATA. Our daily fee & annual memberships pay for the day to day stuff. I'm not so sure about any KITTY getting funded!
T shot ..... Who runs the AIM shoot? Who runs the U.S. Open? Who runs the Grand? Which of those is the 1?
Lynn (the Talking Head ) Gipson was once a well respected name among trap shooters, those days as well as his reputation are a thing of the past ... If a person can publicly talk about generating 20/30 millions dollars in revenue, moving in a "Fantastic Direction", betterment of the ATA, from that moment on in many peoples eyes his credit ability is lower than Whale shit all for the sake of the all mighty dollar ... If you can't trust the person sitting in any certain seat, that seat loses all value ... Lynn Gipson is out for Lynn Gipson, nobody else and will say what ever he is told to say and swear to it ... Any person with even average knowledge (awareness) would know what he claims are pure unadulterated BS ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
The Grand & the US Open are the shoots I'm talking about. The AIM shoot is paid for from the AIM funds I think.
and now you say there are how many ATA shoots? 2-3? And the ATA does not hold the AIM shoot according to you. The more you post the more you prove there is a forum idiot.
What did I say wrong? The ATA has the Grand and US Open. I'm not sure if AIM or ATA pays for that shoot. What more you want? Who pays for any other shoots? What SUMMER shoots does the ATA have? Just more ATA bashing!
T Shot. You said nothing wrong! The original premise of this thread is nothing more than attempted trolling to further bash the ATA and its executives using fake news, unfounded rumors and an insult from an "ultra elite poster". Ho Hum! Ed
The Illinois Dept of Revenue some years back stated that retail sales taxes collected in the general area and region were not close to claims made by Lynn ( the Talking Head ) Gipson as a matter of fact they have been less that collected in previous years ... Average knowledge can be knowing the facts as compared to inflated numbers give to make a good showing or impression beyond what it really is ... If by chance a person does not know what average knowledge is they probably do not have it so again it would be best to go and talk to the toaster ... The ATA's performance rating would be classified as "Pathetic" at best every year since the relocation to Illinois ... The shoot that used to be the Grand Daddy of shoots is now nothing more than a Pathetic excuse just to have something to present to those who choose to attend ... Facts and figures have been presented time and time again on this forum and when needed proof has been presented ... When they have (Claimed ) 15,000 people on the grounds in 1,000 camping spots yet cannot produce 2000 shooters for the grand American a person with average knowledge would be able to quickly work the numbers and smell the BS ... Those numbers do not account for the claim of an additional 15,000 in the region and or general area waiting to attend ... Lynn (the Talking Head ) Gipson made claim he thought (?) they were moving in a fantastic direction which would be subjective at best, being as the number in attendance that year was less than the previous year ... In the real world at real jobs not one of those acting as ED, EC, and many of the BOD would last for more that the time it took to type up their pink slips ... So anyone getting a warm and fuzzy feeling about the way things are going or being handled probably pissed in their pants, based on average knowledge ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
Where is this document again that says how much the grand American brings in? I found this article which looks about right. https://www.ammoland.com/2016/01/atas-grand-american-to-continue-in-sparta-in-2016/#axzz5AW66xZwH
T Shot...hang in there. Kinda looks like cheap shots and insults are frequently the norm here. Regards, Ed
Old Goat 2, Making light of Mr. Gibsons preformence as a director of the ATA is not a cheap shot. It is fact, many of his statements are exagerations of the ATA's ability to recrute new and to keep old members. Can you or anyone else please print one of his better accomplishments that has improved the attendance of the ATA shoots in Sparta or anywhere else? I'm only asking you for your reason for your statement to T shot. Roger C.
Mr. Coveleskie, my reason for my statement to T Shot is based on the less-than-civil and uncalledfor comments made to him, most noticeably by "Mega Poster" Smithy evident in this thread. Ed
Old Goat 2 - you must mean where T Shot corrected someone by saying the ATA only has "one shoot" at the WSRC over the summer. Just one shoot LOL!!!! Of course discounting the U.S. Open, AIM, and grand equals 3. Either he knows nothing about trapshooting or again proves he is the forum idiot. It aint a cheap shot if true. And he implied I am not intelligent. Now that hurt.....
Smithy one more time you are wrong. My 1st post said 1 shoot but maybe the U S OPEN. And I'm think AIM takes care of their own shoot. Is that to hard for YOU to understand?
Bumping an old merlo thread. How can the State Govna pursue gun hate laws and keep control of the WSRC? They can’t!