No room in the inn -- Cardinal & Heritage Inn

Discussion in 'Trapshooting Forum - Americantrapshooter.com' started by Family Guy, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Art says the motel is booked thru July and it is not going to be used by shooters until at least August. The motel was offering shooters $29.95 rooms. This could impact entries at the Buckeye and Ohio State Shoot.

    All rooms now are booked at a higher rate due to a large pipeline in the area.
     
  2. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    Maybe if there were more hotels closer to the Cardinal..........

    Sounds like one of the same complaints about another shooting venue in .........
     
  3. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Congrats Win101 ..... You win dumb-ass post of the year .....

    Get off the keyboard and go to some shoots before you embarrass yourself more.

    I have stayed in "Hotels" in AROUND "Sparta", and NEAR the "Cardinal" ..... Have you ????????????
     
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  4. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    Thanks!
    When do I get my trophy?
     
  5. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Who said anything about a "Trophy" ?????

    You just get the recognition of being stupid, nothing more .....

    If you can add something to the thread topic, please do ..... if not, I would highly suggest not replying.
     
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  6. T Shot

    T Shot Mega Poster

    Wow didn't take much to get the Ohio whiners upset!
     
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  7. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Who gets "upset" ????? That is what a internet "Troll", with no life, tries to accomplish .....

    No need to get your hopes up ..... just take some advice on how to stay with a thread topic.

    If you feel the need to brag to the mental-midgets about being "banned", just ask and save others time they can spend doing something else.
     
  8. T Shot

    T Shot Mega Poster

    Like I said. How far away are I open hotels? And is the campground full?
     
  9. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    Yes, I've stayed in hotels or motels around Sparta, several times in fact.
    Haven't made it to the Cardinal yet but hope to this summer for the SCTP Nationals in July.
     
  10. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Really ????? What post was that ??????????

    Try this link ..... https://www.thecardinalcenter.com/ ..... a call will get you more mileage than a "post" .....
     
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  11. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    They could have built a dozen more hotels near that place in IL. and there STILL would have only been 1745 shooters in the GAH event.
     
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  12. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    How can 1 hotel/motel that has $29.95 rooms being booked through July have that much impact on shooter numbers?
     
  13. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Well Win101 ...... I would guess that if "1 Hotel/Motel" is "booked" because of a large pipeline project in the area, others may be "booked" also.

    Many "Trapshooters" are known to be "cheap", so it may have an impact with all the "cheap" rooms being "booked" .....

    What do you think ?????
     
  14. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    Original poster only mentioned Art's being booked.
     
  15. trappermike

    trappermike Active Member

    I have stayed at hotels near Sparta for the Grand.

    I have stayed at hotels near the Cardinal for the Buckeye, State Shoot and Cardinal Classic. Most shooters seem to go south of the Cardinal for hotels as there are tons of choices. Myself and my shooting partner always go north of the Cardinal for hotels, just not as far as the Heritage Inn. We stay at the exit where Der Dutchman restaurant is located and always eat there. Going north seems easier from a traffic standpoint. We used to stay down around the Polaris exit but it gets pretty busy at rush hour.

    The drive from our hotel to shoot at the WSRC was around fifty minutes. It has all been said before regarding the lack of infrastructure surrounding Sparta. But I gladly do the drive to shoot at the Grand just as I gladly do the long drive to get to the Cardinal from where I live. And both of those drives are shorter then the trip to Missouri for the big fall shoot.

    I know from reading posts here that the Heritage has a regular group of people who stay there and enjoy the mans hospitality and very inexpensive rates. But there are enough hotels with close proximity to the Cardinal that the influx of pipeline workers booking rooms in the Mansfield area will have little to no affect on the number of shooters at the Cardinal.

    My hope is with the economy picking up combined with cheaper gas prices that all shoots everywhere increase their numbers.
     
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  16. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Earth to 101

    The bigger question would be "where do people like you come from?" Assuming there are more than one of you (god help us), I will answer the dumb question of the year.

    Quite a few trapshooters with marginal income would stop at the CC from places like PA and Canada. With the lower price for motels the Canadians could afford the trip. Of course understanding this concept would imply you understand why Sparta is a failure.

    The heart of the the trapshooting world is predominately blue collar shooters. That would include the blue collar shooters from PA, OH, MI, NY, IN, WV etc. Those shooters were kicked to the curb when the corrupt got their teeth into the grand.

    The backbone of the trapshooting world was kicked to the curb with the continuing Sparta debacle. Note the 1745 vs 4,000-5,000

    To 101....you made the forum's point. You just don't get it. Never will.
     
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  17. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    101

    Gee, I thought you learned a small lesson from your last post....but again in case there are 2 of you in the world I will respond again.

    It is against the law to sleep in your car in the park at Sparta.

    The local po po does not allow you to sleep in your car at Walmart at Sparta. I tried that. The police chased me out.

    If you are a blue collar worker you cannot drive whole day and drive another whole day and have a day to shoot. That keeps the weekend shooter out of Sparta.

    You can sleep in your car at the CC but the older shooters have problems doing that.

    Again, thanks for making the average on the site feel like rocket scientists.
     
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  18. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    As a small business owner myself, I'm very happy that Art has been able to book his rooms that far out. Art has been very good to the trapshooters and I am sure he will be there for us again in the future. If enough hotels get booked for the pipeline workers it is possible that it could impact the shoots, but I highly doubt that will happen. If Jack Fishburn feels that hotel availability is going to be a problem in the future, he will solve that problem the same way he solved the skeet field and pistol shooting area problem, he will build his own!

    I have noticed the traffic/posts on this site have been dwindling. If you need a reason for the lack of posting you need look no further than the responses from Family Guy and User 1 to Win101 on this thread. This used to be a site where different opinions could be expressed without the type of sharply worded responses and personal attacks we see here. I hope this site doesn't continue down the extremely negative path that it seems to be on. If it does, I know I will have much better things to do with my time then posting here. Now if you feel you need to ban me from this site for my comments, so be it.
     
  19. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Post number 2 was the "invitation" .....

    If everyone can not "see" that making a post like number 2 on this thread is NOTHING but "trolling", then there is not much else to say.

    People who "troll" do it for a response ..... they just don't always like what they "catch" .....

    FWIW ..... I DO NOT "bash" some place I have never been, unlike some who just "troll" to pass time.
     
  20. kolarpole

    kolarpole Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Don Cogan................I fully agree with your post........
     
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  21. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Maybe "Win101" would care to share with everyone all the sign-on names they have used for "trolling posts".

    There is nothing wrong with "a site where different opinions could be expressed", but if your wish is for "without the type of sharply worded responses and personal attacks we see here" ..... I suggest people like "Win101" use a single sign-on name, and get over the fact of driving "farther" for the "SCTP Nationals".

    What say you "Win101" ?????? Care to share ALL your cyber-land identities, so "others" may understand why you draw "sharply worded responses" ?????
     
  22. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    What the hell are you talking about user?
    I just joined this "forum" as you call it February 1.
     
  23. Fvtrkyhntr

    Fvtrkyhntr New Member

    Interesting. Thought I made a reservation about a month ago for 3 nights the begining of the State Shoot . Got a confirmation email. Will have to check
     
  24. Win101

    Win101 Mega Poster

    Well?

    Do I get an answer to my question about what you're talking about?
     
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  25. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    "Win101" ..... Read post number 7, then pay close attention to line number 2 ..... and let it sink in before your next post on this thread.

    If you feel the need to continue anything in "public", start all the threads you like. I would suggest an "off topic" thread if it is not shooting related.

    As the saying goes ..... "be careful what you wish for" ..... my LAST "drift" post on this thread, may it be yours also.
     
  26. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    You are saying there were rooms available a month ago.....you are right. Ask for a room now for $29.95.

    Also, some may wish to note it was never implied there is a shortage of rooms at the CC. The Heritage is a 30 minutes drive. Thousands of rooms are available much closer.

    Art made almost no money on the discounted rooms. He did this as a favor to me as well as his support for the second amendment. Art is a legal immigrant from a country without a second amendment.

    Art's number is (419) 589-3333. I can't get a room and I buy the beer for the motel on Friday of the shoots.
     
  27. STaT mAn STaN

    STaT mAn STaN Mega Poster

    Walmart calculator not needed. A basic understanding of supply and demand is needed here.

    When widgets are cheap and are in demand you are more likely to buy widgets.

    Let's assume 30 shooters compete for the week that may not have attended if not for the cheap rooms. If each of the shooters shoot two events a day and they sh00t for 5 days the total number od entries would be 5 X 2 X 30 = 300 entries.
     
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  28. just joe

    just joe Administrator Staff Member

    Interesting subject so I will comment as a mod.

    Our readership is thru the roof and continues to grow. Perception sometimes becomes reality.

    The forum has morphed into a news site. It is a site not about sevens or eights. Trapshooters come here to get the facts or discuss which is fact. Readership here is 3 times what it was last year.

    The most informed shooters / writers visit this place to read and decipher what is BS. Yes we got that. We have mods that have the keys to the car and the mods dont agree!

    Many of the writers here have been banned from other places and wear that on their sleeves.

    You will find perceived misstatements (BS) on the site but due to the knowledge of the readership, everything is re-reviewed and challenged. This can be intimidating to a lot of posters.

    Post away.

    joe
     
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  29. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Just for everyone's info Jack bought a hotel elevator this winter for some reason. Brad
     
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  30. trappermike

    trappermike Active Member

    Careful joe, the original subject of the thread is about the Heritage Inn.

    User 1 just may threaten to ban you for thread drift, lmao.
     
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  31. User 1

    User 1 Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    It is always good to see you post trappermike .....

    Funny post ..... thanks for the laugh.

    FWIW ..... I had no idea some people were so sensitive, so in the future it can just happen and then people can ask "why" later. That seems to be the "way" other places handle not making "threats". So I guess "hurt feelings" can be "hurt feelings", because some would prefer to "wonder why".
     
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  32. harryone

    harryone Moderator Staff Member

    Art deserves to make some money. The pipeline people will pay top dollar. I will get a room for the Cardinal Classic.
     
  33. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    In the future, Cardinal Center Hotel, Motel , theater, and Lounge that would be the NUTs ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  34. trappermike

    trappermike Active Member

    No, what would be nuts is Cardinal Center Hotel, Motel, theater, Lounge and Casino...
     
  35. History Seeker

    History Seeker A NoBody Founding Member Official Historian

    Casino ?

    OMGosh, would the ladies be coming in with their Hubbies if that ever happened to come to fruition...

    My wife went with me anyway, but would that ever entice more Gals....

    And instead of having Trinkets for prizes, CC could offer up Tokens to the Casino as prizes.

    BRAD ? Comments ?
     
  36. Brent Paulus

    Brent Paulus Active Member Founding Member

    Sure looks like a Good place for the Ohio Trapshooting Association to step in or step up and possibly provide some local area info on lodging, entertainment, shopping(for the non shooters), and restaurants. Just a thought, or maybe someone at the Cardinal could provide this info. I'm sure there are some economical rates somewhere close. As said above a short drive south too Columbus gets you a very wide variety of choices. Happy Shooting
     
  37. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Brent, try the internet, you will be surprised what you might find ... The OTA has a lot of things to do besides baby sit trap shooters and step up ( ???) and give people road maps on places to stay and or eat ... There are to many people in this world that want everyone else to do for them what they should be doing for them self ... (you are not one of them of course ) ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  38. peddler

    peddler Member

    I took a ride out to Shelby OH yesterday there is a constant flow of trucks from Texas hauling pipe going west on 30 I understand there are a lot of out of state pipe liners and there is no surprise why Art is full
     
  39. 320090T

    320090T Mega Poster Founding Member

    Called Thursday, got a room at the Americas Best, old Days Inn, for the state shoot. It is the next exit south of CC.
     
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