Dog hair floating all around, getting on clothes and in Coffee + food if it was served. Some people / shooters are allergic to dogs/animals. GB....................................DLS
I would have respect for the fact that not all people are dog lovers as many of us are, so I would probably not take my dog into any club house even if they were allowed ... DLS makes a good point about if they are serving food on the premise and it being a Health Dept Rule in most places, but if the Dog is a Certified Therapy or Service Dog, they are actually exempt from regulations that would effect every day dogs, pets etc ... My Dog is certified and I would still not subject others to an animal I Love because he is exempt ... I find it to be more of a courtesy issue for the most part ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
I belong to a gun club that allows dogs, but there is no rule on Days where food is served, But Dog Hair is rampant in the club House, stuck to bottom of Chairs, and clumps of hair on the floor. I was told it was brought up at meetings before and dogs allowed, We have 2 Club Houses, a larger one where meetings and receptions are held, and one where Shotgun and rifle pistol ranges are, as well as Traprange and Sporting Clays Course. The gun club has mainly ONE dog that comes, and she / He is a SHEDDER. And not washed on a regular Basis. We have 4 members who SMOKE A LOT, and DRINK BEER on a DAILY BASIS, and Clubhouse WREAKS OF SMOKE, I Air it out on a regular Basis. I believe it should be brought up and Really Looked at, Concerning DOG HAIR/SMOKE/ BEER/ and Whiskey GB..................................................DLS
"I believe it should be brought up and Really Looked at, Concerning DOG HAIR/SMOKE/ BEER/ and Whiskey" I couldn't agree more. There is no way a dog with long hair should be allowed to smoke or drink whiskey in the club house. A cold beer once in a while maybe, but none of the hard stuff.
Some states have health and occupational safety programs that will come out and sample your air and provide a report of the sample compared to "normal" air, your sample and levels of chemicals, dust, pollen, etc. commonly considered safe. I've used them in several plants and they do not share their data or sample schedules with any enforcement arm of the organization. After all, the idea is to let folks know if they have a problem. Penalizing them for what is found would only assure that no one ever checked their environment. That information shared with the board might shed, no pun intended, some light on the problem.
We welcome dogs most anytime, sometimes more then the big mouths that try to dominate every conversation. At least the dogs are happy to receive a treat or at the least someone to rub their ear! The dogs around our club are friendly and well behaved. And we keep the place swept-up at all times.
Aa Are you saying that some shooters show up and drink AND shoot ? I am assuming not. If you are saying the drinkers/smokers show up and don't shoot then I don't see any reason to let them use your club house for their own personal den. I've seen clubs where a few of the "old regulars" are past having any interest in shooting but they need a place to go, perhaps play some gin rummy or euchre, and just generally hang out because they have nothing else to do. Doesn't sound like they contribute much to the overall quality of the club either. I think it would be prudent to post a "no smoking" and "no dogs" sign at the doorway - and enforce the rule.
amboy49, Be nice to the old regulars. Hopefully you will be one of them someday. I R 1, but I still shoot. Roger C.
You'd be hard put to find a shooter that loves dogs more than I do. I spend much of my free time either hunting with my dogs, training with them or just plain ole playing with them. That being said, I don't feel my dogs belong in the clubhouse at the gun clubs I frequent. Not everyone enjoys the company of dogs. Responsible dog owners respect the rights of others to come and enjoy the gun club free of dogs. My dogs do get to play in the clubhouses of the hunt clubs I belong to, but our dogs are the focal point of the hunt clubs. I couldn't disagree more strongly with amboy49's comment about older members of the gun clubs not contributing to the overall quality of the clubs. Many of my fondest memories of time spent at gun clubs are not about shooting, but rather the time I was privileged to spend with the elder statesmen of the clubs. Many of these ladies and gentlemen are no longer with us, but I will always cherish the time I spent playing cards with them and just listening to their stories. I can't imagine myself patronizing a club that didn't allow the "old timers" to just come and hang out with the gang!
Dogs, no. Old guys, mandatory. I love the stories the old farts tell about shoots from the past. I know of others that just think all those "waltzes down memory lane" are just a bunch of hot air. But to me, the history of our sport is carried in the words of those grizzled veterans. And one can never overlook the wealth of knowledge they are capable of bringing to the table regarding gun fit, gun hold, etc. etc. etc. And let's face facts. The majority of "us" are just a few birthdays away from joining that table with all the old farts who are no longer capable of shooting as our bodies betray us. Now before I get accused of "thread drift"...... back to the issue of canines. While it may be true that the majority of shooters were hunters before they were trap shooters, and dogs were part and parcel to that hunting, they still do not belong in the clubhouse. And those that subscribe to the mantra of "if my dog isn't welcome, then neither am I" were to apply that same philosophy to other venues they could count on the fingers of one hand where they would be welcome. I love my Labs. But they stay at home when I go to the club.
WPT not as good as I feel I should be doing, it mainly sits here in Apt, I mainly use my AXIS RS-12 Un-single, today they are shooting Sporting Clays and it is 18 degrees. GB..........................................DLS
Big Jack, Leaf blower is not a good idea. You are stirring up some things in the air that are much worse than dog hair. Roger C.
Just leave the dogs at home! There are people that are allergic to dogs and there are people that don't like dogs.
Roger, I also consider myself an old (67) regular (shoot at least one or more times a week). There are different types of old timers just like there are different types of young(er) shooters. There are older shooters/club members who are always respectful of others and there are older shooters/club members who were a$$holes when they were young and they continue in the same manner as they've grown old(er) ! Just because someone is old doesn't mean they deserve respect. Respect, at least for me, is earned. That's not to say I won't be polite - unless politeness is misconstrued as being complacent. A good method of dealing with others is to "be nice until it's no longer time to be nice." This thread could easily morph into previous threads about clubs where folks who are new to the sport or just new to the club aren't offered a welcoming hand and a friendly hello. Clubs with grumpy old men who feel they can run the show are more than likely destined to see that club eventually fail. I'm all for tradition and respect. However, respect for others should be a two way street.
Amboy49, I agree, I will show tollerance until it turns into abuse. At that point I will explain why I disagree with their actions. BUT, at only (67) you are still a baby yet. I have passed the big (80) already. Roger C.
I love dogs in the club house!! Adds to the flavor of the club and is a good socialization tool for the pooch. I think it should be mandatory at all gun clubs to have an old retired lab lying around. Lots of people bring there dogs to my club and the people flock to them!! My guy will be 11 in June, he's the perfect "gun club dog", well mannered and loves everyone
I love my Dog, and treat him like family, not everyone feels that way about dogs or animals in general, they have rights that have to be considered also ... Some one bringing a dog into the club house does not bother me but it does bother some others ... Respect and courtesy for your fellow man ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
It depends on the dog. Most I have seen were easy going Labs. There are times where I like the dogs more than some of the people. One thing I notice when I know dogs are present is I always look behind me before I step so I don't step on them. Does not bother me really. If the clubhouse is crowded, then I see no point in having them in there. More dangerous for them, and kind of in the way then. It just seems more trouble for the owners to always have to be looking to see what they are doing, and where they went.