More WSRC complex problems come to Light

On or about August 11th 2003 Mr. Mike Hampton informed the ATA he had been retained by Illinois Department of Natural Resources as PROJECT MANAGER FOR WRSC, correct me if I am wrong a Project Manager must hold a license as a CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER which is a degree required with a working Knowledge of the Trade for a minimum specific time.

He is directly responsible for the construction and inspection and certification of all construction work at the WRSC.

Including the buildings, roads, electrical service, footers, and foundations, building loads, roof snow loads, and materials of construction.

He was an employee for/and of the Illinois Department , IDNR. He should have been or had a BONDING COMPANY protecting his job certification that everything met Standard Construction Standards of the IBC.

The ATA is not responsible for any sub-standard building practices, such as roads built w/o proper sub base of #2 limestone rolled and compacted, with a layer of #57 limestone rolled and compacted before asphalt is installed.

The Electrical Distribution Equipment and Electrical loads at 120% of maximum loads, proper switch gear circuit breakers, Wiring Sizes, etc.

This decision relies 100 % on the IDNR in their selection of Mr. Mike Hampton as project Mgr for the WRSC.

Which I personally feel was a direct CONFLICT OF INTEREST as may have been working for the ATA at that time also, and relating to thye ATA on Project Progression

The job as Project manager entails more than I have stated, this is just a fraction, Did Mr. Mike Hampton have an ENGINEERS DEGREE?

Gary Bryant.................................Dr.longshot

 

Gary,

There is a difference between a project engineer and a project manager. Also different rules in different states. And, in some states, especially when you work for the state, it's the employer who holds certifications that employees work under.

 

Gary,
You need a different hobby.

 

If this is truly in the hands of Mr. Hampton, WE ARE IN DEEP DODO. The new organization had better move now. Roger C.

 

Google education requirements to be a PROJECT MANAGER, minimum is a Bachelor Degree in almost any field as a basic start, then working in that field to gain knowledge, Cost Management, Construction Details, Construction Development Etc.

Gary Bryant.........................................Dr.longshot

 

You are wrong....................again!!!!

 

The above Statement from Illinois Law on job requirement as PROJECT MANAGER.

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GB..............................DLS

 

I thought you were going to remove yourself from this site? What are you waiting for?

 

If the good DR. is wrong then please point out where he is wrong.

 

Mike Hampton approached the Illinois IDNR for the job, the IDNR did not pursue him. He sent letters and e-mails, Brown Nosed his way into the Position.

Now you can see the poor job he did, Building Roads and applying Black Top on Dirt W/O any base, A high School graduate is smarter than that.

Maybe he( MIKE HAMPTON) should pay for that Road Rip Up and Installation of Roads Properly. My son just had 96 tons of #2s for the base on his drive way.


Gary Bryant......................................Dr.longshot

 

The State of Illinois has claimed the State Parks need almost 1 million dollars in repairs for cited safety issues that are causes for concern and are part of public record which creates a problem if someone were to get injured due to any one of the cited issues ... The WSRC was on schedule for $154,000 (2016) and change for repairs in general which does not include the road work needed from lack of being put in correctly with the correct amount of compacted base before being black topped ... I have talked to several of my personal friends who had a 10 year lease and are not going to renew even on a yearly basis for one reason or another besides the cost being raised to ridiculous amounts for less shoots ... If by chance one of the big motor homes would get into one of the ruts and bottom out it could cause major damage to the under carriage and any exposed lines so they obviously have more problems than they were anticipating prematurely ... The fact that its in a rural area might of helped them get by with over looking some certain issues that would not normally be over looked besides the fact it was a push to get the facility done and usable much quicker than it would of taken if all things were accounted for and done right ... Thats one of those "Pay me now, or Pay me later" type things and its to late to worry about it now, other than do the much needed repairs and move on ... It usually costs more to do something and then have to repair it than do it right in the first place, obviously this is one of those times ... The older the facility gets the more its going to cost for up keep and to maintain it just from normal use, that time has obviously come ... The residents of Sparta have not really rallied in favor of the facility based on them not being to get minimal signatures on some petitions that were filed with the State , (Gov etc) to get it on any of the ballets for the voters to decide ... Typically, its another State project that totally screwed up and turned out to be a disaster ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

"We're from the government and we are here to help"

 

Why don't you call him and ask him...

 

FlaLagarto
You got his phone number?

 

I did a little research and found that all States have minimal requirement Standards for State Licensed Inspectors, State Project Managers as well as Superintendents which basically means you cannot Legally be one if you are not qualified to be one by meeting those standards ... The State license's are required on ALL State funded projects with no exceptions to the rules ... I could see there would be one Superintendent over several Licensed inspectors , who would be over the Project managers, over job foremen, labors etc. (more or less a "Chain of Command") if you will for lack of a better terminology .... WPT ... (YAC) ...

The Internet is a wonderful thing , information up the Ya Ya ...

 

Who had the responsibility to Check Out Mike Hampton's Qualifications/ Cerifications? Why did not IDNR Check him OUT? We the Membership GOT SCR*WED
to the tune with a WRSC that is not capable to pass inspections.

It all comes down to the EC and BOD

Gary Bryant........................................Dr.longshot

 

Gary,
We (the ATA) don't own it so we didn't get screwed but if everything was not in order the State of Illinois got screwed big time ... If by chance anyone falsified any documentation, that person would be subject to prosecution if the State made the choice to pursue it , which under the existing circumstances they would probably not find reason to ... The place is crumbling from what I have been told, (have not seen it with my own eyes) by friends who had 10 leases and will not be going back ... Its only a matter of time and the State will wipe if off of the books, load it in trucks, and haul it away like many other State projects that failed, as well as some that didn't fail and were removed from the books anyway ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Flagrato: You seem to be the Information Head for the ATA, Why don't you check out the ATA's Qualification for the ATA's Project Manager Mike Hampton, the ATA seems to be full of Officers that have no Honesty or Integrity, Is Mike Hampton an exception, I doubt it if he is not qualified to be the Project Manager, you get what you pay for, we members have to just look at who did what and when and Where.. It's usually to late by then.

Gary Bryant.....................................Dr.longshot

 

WPT: How much money have we given to the WRSC Projects? $250,000 is one that Immeaditly comes to mind.

GB..........................................DLS

 

You "assume" to much... you were the one asking if he had the requirements.. You come on a blog and ask people who can't answer the question.. the easiest way to get the answer is to ask him. If he says yes, then ask him to show you.. . not rocket science!

 

Flalagarto
Like I said....you got his number?

 

I lost track, does Mr. Hampton have or not, the required education, certifications, etc?

 

The matter with Mike Hampton is not the ATA's problem if by chance he does not carry proper credentials, it's between MH and the State unless the ATA recommended (hired) him for the position claiming he was qualified and certified to State standards as the project Superintendent ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

I just want to say, A project manager does not have to have any special qualifications, They are basically a baby sitter of the project.

A project manager is a client representative and has to determine and implement the exact needs of the client, based on knowledge of the organization they are representing. An expertise is required in the domain the Project Managers are working to efficiently handle all the aspects of the project. The ability to adapt to the various internal procedures of the client and to form close links with the nominated representatives, is essential in ensuring that the key issues of cost, time, quality and above all, client satisfaction, can be realized.

 

#1 son is a project manager for a software company. His only qualification is an engineering degree and experience. Works for him.

 

Not that it's any of your business... but YES, I do

 

The second biggest lie is "We're glad you're here"

 

Boy he pulled the WOOL over somebodies eyes, Took them down the road, he did not represent the ATA, only the IDNR, it was their money that went down the Drain, No wonder Illinois is almost Bankrupt.

Somebody did not followup on his submitted achievements, or thouroughly check them out. I hope they had a $5Million Dollar Bond on him so they could recoup their losses, for his mistakes.

Mongo you are totally wrong with your description/ this could be a do it yourself home builder description, in a non inspection City/County w/o Building Codes

No Bonding Company would Bond Him I Bet.

Gary Bryant....................................Dr.longshot

 

Longshot don"t cough up the Crow Dinner you ate..we'll be shooting in Sparta while you and Merlo spend time in some seedy motel on a back road in ohio!!!

 

How much you willing to put up on that bet ??? I'm sure Mike would be more then willing to take you up on it if you sweeten the pot real good.

 

Fla, how do the posters know what Mr. Hampton's qualifications are?

How do they know how the roads were built?

My area must have the same issues, our roads are constantly being repaired. There are two seasons here, winter and construction. And I can assure you, the folks overseeing the work here, are all PEs.

 

Ollie: That is good Qualifications

GB.........................DLS

 

Well, Dr. Don't Shoot, maybe you should get out a little more often and maybe you would understand how the real world works, but what can you expect from someone like yourself who can screw up a perfectly good gun in a matter of days thinking you know how to make it better.
Maybe just maybe you will listen to people that actually do the job you are talking about.
Yes you can go to school to be a project manager, but most of the time you earn the title of project manager or PM.
Last but not least , you don't bond the individual you bond the contractors and engineering firm.
So I guess someone who use to install HVAC would know this if they were worth a $hit.

 

I think you deserve a nice gift for implying the good Dr. isn't worth a $hit.

Perhaps a nice box of candy?

 

Nice

 

Mongo: You are full of sh*t Contractors are insured, If they have a license, A contracted job such as a Project Manager normally is a Bonded Position as he is responsible that all job functions are completed and contractors are paid and all codes are followed, The contractors are bonded/and licensed and insured which must be documented before License is Issued, I know I was in Business for 40+ years, and I am a State of Ohio Licensed Building Inspector, I know the laws, Been there and done that, Have you ever held a State Licensed Job? Have ever been Bonded by an Insurance Carrier for a Job, or Position? I have.

Do you know why a bond is required? Do you know why a minimum of a Bacleors degree is required, and expierence in the field or scope of your job title as a Project Manager, or Construction Superintendant? I doubt you know anything pertaining to Building Construction, there is still some un-licensed City work being done, but Damn Few. do you know what IBC stands for?

I STILL DO HOME CONSTRUCTION iNSPECTIONS ON A CONTRACT BASIS FOR DIFFERENT CITIES.

Yours in Sport
Gary Bryant..............................Dr.longshot

 

MONGO: Isn't that a Clint Eastwood Character along with Clyde the Ape, and rode a motorcycle w/a bold head and got Tarred and Feathered in a defunct motorcycle gang w/ low intelleigence?

Fits your construction expierence doesn't it!!!!!

Yours in Sport
Gary Bryant................................Dr.longshot

 

How much construction experience do you have, I just finished 100,00o sf building in Ohio and currently working a 150, 0oo sf m in Alabama. What have you ever done besides stir $hit, dude get a life or come to reality that you really don't know $hit about construction.

 

OK, the clip I put up was just for fun because of the sign on name.
Glad you too though it was funny.

I can see from this post that you know a lot about construction. Or claim you do. I don't really care about that one way or another. You could be full of $hit for all I know.

I do have a serious question. If you calling Gary what you did wasn't to just "stir $hit" as you like to say, WHAT WAS IT?

I get it, you don't like someone saying ANYTHING about your ata. They are "bashers", haters, and according to you D*~>heads.

I don't know when you first paid dues to the ata but mine were relatively not that long ago. 1976

Remember this,

I didn't leave the ata,THE ata LEFT ME.

 

I am not trying to protect the ATA, I have only been an ATA member for 4 years. I just love to shoot trap, doesn't matter if it is registered or not. Another thing I love is my job and I have been a Project Manager for 18 years and I can't stand when people talk about issues try have no clue about. .

 

None of that can be true.

Mongo said he HEARD ALL ABOUT IT so his story MUST be the truth.

Candy gram for Mongo, Candy gram for Mongo.

 

Ok, what ever you say must be gospel. Just like the old saying goes "A legend in your own mind". All is good.
Everyone is wrong.

 

Why the state's stealth budget crisis is real
Eric ZornContact ReporterChange of Subject
Illinois Senate Democrats recently estimated that, due to judicial decrees and other "agreements and arrangements" among elected officials, 89.4 percent of the state's usual bills are being covered even without the formal appropriations of an operating budget.


Judge tosses request to find Rauner administration in contempt on payments
Most of the calamitous effects of slashed funding to not-for-profit agencies in the outstanding 10.6 percent that rely on state funding to serve some of our most vulnerable citizens have, so far, been largely hypothetical. The state has been paying them money still owed from the last fiscal year.

Most higher-education institutions, also left in the lurch, have so far been able to minimize the impact of state funding shortfalls by moving money around.

Accordingly, the howls of outrage have been muted. Demands that our lawmakers strike a compromise spending deal lack the urgency even to keep them in session nonstop.

It was actually big news last week that the Illinois Lottery is postponing payouts to winners of more than $25,000 — not exactly a heart-tugging story.

What budget crisis?

This budget crisis:

Due to all these analgesic deals and decrees, Illinois is now spending at roughly the old rate while taking in tax revenue at the new, lower rate.


Illinois' budget impasse is having a big impact
This puts the state in the same situation it was earlier this year when the Democrat-controlled General Assembly allowed income-tax rates to fall 25 percent on New Year's Day even though the Democrats' spending plan through June assumed a continuation of the higher rates.

Lawmakers and Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner were mostly able to patch that estimated $1.6 billion hole with one-time fixes and other legerdemain.

But the hole is opening again. Estimates are that Illinois is on pace to spend about $38 billion in this fiscal year and take in only $33 billion.

So every day that goes by, the budget cuts and tax increases that will ultimately be required to bring the books into balance, as the state constitution requires, are becoming more severe.

"There are no long-term savings as a result of this budget impasse," said Laurence Msall, president of the Civic Federation, a nonpartisan budget watchdog organization. "We're spending enormous amounts of money that we don't have, and the longer it goes on, the more painful the legislature's remaining options become."

Democratic state Sen. Daniel Biss of Evanston described current state spending as "an insane patchwork quilt of incomprehensible nonsense" that no one in government seems truly to have a handle on and that will require increasingly painful measures to address.

Republicans don't disagree: "Each and every day that passes without a budget is another day in the wrong direction," said Rep. Ron Sandack, R-Downers Grove, on WTTW-Ch. 11 Monday night. It leads to "more fiscal chaos and financial insecurity."

This hurts everyone, not just the poor, the sick and otherwise distressed who will be first to feel the stings now that program money is drying up. It hurts employers. It hurts employees. It hurts students. It hurts the elderly. I will not go on.

And it underscores the need for Rauner to focus squarely on taxes and spending. It requires him to set aside for later his anti-union agenda and other items on his wish list and negotiate an agreement to prevent us from quietly but inevitably falling deeper and deeper into the hole that all sides have conspired to create.

What budget crisis?

Now you know.



WPT ... (YAC) ... They had better get a move on , not that far off until 1,000 people will show up to shoot ...