Illinois to Gipson...."We feel your pain. But we have a budget."

The ATA leader that has everything going in a "fantastic direction" did not get the answers / results he wanted when he traveled to Springfield. Their answer "We feel your pain. But we have a budget."

Gipson said there are other venues and mentioned Missouri, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Arizona.

Gipson also said the Hall of Fame will open later this year.

http://thesouthern.com/sports/outdo...cle_78b3ee33-7c9e-566d-90b5-e672b03d23fa.html

 

WHERE ////////////////// In a storage locker? Roger C.

 

"Gipson said there are venues in Missouri, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Arizona that would be able to host a scaled down Grand American."

Man, does this JUMP OFF THE PAGE AT YOU or what?

FlyersAREbest

 

Somebody put this little gem up on that old worn out site. Better call the paramedics first.

I'll bet gipson almost choked on the word Ohio

 

What about Texas?

 

Corruption coming to a town near you.

 

Man this article was an interesting read. I have a few takes on it. The ATA offered to run the facility and give the state all the money in the 5th paragraph. For starters is that even legal when you're a 501 c3? But even if it is doesn't the members get a say about this? In one spot they give the old tried and try 12 million dollar impact fallacy, and then quote the Edward Jones's building in St. Louis and say that the WRSC has almost the same impact. Comparing 12 million to 24 million, a 50% deference shows why Illinois is in such fiscal trouble.

There is one truth though in this article when they mention Ohio and shopping the grand around. I know that is true. If you haven't kept up on this long drawn out decline of the ATA and the WRSC and you like, or love as I do trap shooting, you owe it to yourself to read up on the 10 years of decline that trap shooting has fallen into with the Sparta experience. It was no surprise to a lot of us and now it looks to be here. I'm just sad (mad) that the HOF got dragged down the same hole just so some could have their way. You know who I mean. The picture says the HOF will open later this year. Less than sixty days to go. Maybe Punkin Flock will be on the move. Brad

 

Lynn ( the Talking Head) Gipson obviously has no idea what 10/12 million dollars looks like or can buy even in this day and age ... The State of Illinois audits geographical areas routinely but especially once they have a vested interest with tax payer dollars ... They do not pull numbers out of a hat or thin air, they are real (Hard numbers) numbers based on taxes collected and paid to the State on retail purchases and compared to past years performances ... The State actually realized a decline in taxes, purchases in the region and local economy after the WSRC was in operation ... How this could happen is anybody's guess but it did ... Imagine the number of people it would take to spend that amount of amount of money buying hotel, motel, restaurant, food, WalMart, beer, wine, chips, and fries (would you like fries with that ..?) etc to even come close to the amount they claim ... Trap shooters for the most part are quite frugal when it comes to spending excessive amounts of money, unless its on things you cannot live with out such as new guns, ammo, fancy leather goods, hats, T-shirts, vests, pie, ice cream (pie and ice cream) and a few other "gotta have things" in life ... They can calculate the total number of entry's based on targets, and fee's and not once have they had enough people attend to spend the amount of money they claim ... Lets be generous and say 25% of the shooters who attend spend excessively ($5,000) for the 2 weeks experience of a life time, based on the entry's the most that would be is 500 people so the other 1507 have to make up the difference and it just is not happening and the State knows it ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

WPT, also remember the ATA has been using kids to pump up the numbers and we haven't seen a breakdown of contestants since Stuart left. Brad

 

Brad,

Per the banner on the ATA's Official web site, they Thanked 4591 shooters from 50 States, 6 foreign country's for shooting 21 truck loads of targets in 2015 at the AIM, and Grand American trap shooting championships in Sparta, Ill ... The most entry's they had on any one event the week of the grand was 2007 ... They do not break it down to how many shooters stayed beyond the AIM week but make claim to 4591 shooter in total ... The ATA also has the banner announcing the grand in 2016 at Sparta, so to say its not very accurate would be a understatement ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

My mantra to the ATA:

 

Up dated news from the Gov of Ill : WPT ... (YAC) ... "ENJOY " ...


UNPRECEDENTED PUBLIC NEGOTIATION SESSION ON ILLINOIS STATE BUDGET POSSIBLE NOV. 18

MATT DIETRICH

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OCT 25, 2015 3397 4

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Clockwise from left: Gov. Bruce Rauner, Senate Republican Leader Christine Radogno, Senate President John Cullerton, House Republican Leader Jim Durkin, House Speaker Michael Madigan
What started last week as something of a Hail Mary pass on the Illinois state budget may bring Gov. Bruce Rauner and the four leaders of the Illinois General Assembly together for an unprecedented public negotiation session on Nov. 18.

Last week the Illinois Campaign for Political Reform teamed up with six other political reform groups on an open letter to House Speaker Michael Madigan, Senate President John Cullerton, Senate Republican Leader Christine Radogno and House Republican Leader Jim Durkin offering to organize and host a public meeting with them and Gov. Bruce Rauner to break the deadlock that’s left the state operating for almost four months with no budget.

“As you know, this inaction is unprecedented and unacceptable to Illinois voters,” the letter said. “ICPR, along with the other nonpartisan reform organizations listed above, want to help. We are ready to facilitate the logistics of a meeting in either Chicago or Springfield, but believe that it must occur prior to November 15th due to the urgent need for resolution on this issue.”

Though Rauner has met periodically with Madigan and Cullerton individually since the end of the legislative session on May 31, there has not been a meeting that included Rauner and all four leaders since May. The budget year started July 1, and without a budget to control spending or bring in new revenue, the state is on pace to spend $34.5 billion while bringing in only $32.1 billion. But that figure does not include spending that can happen only when authorized by a budget. Items like higher education spending will push the gap much higher.

“After more than 100 days of this stalemate, the consequences have become clear,” the letter said. “Illinois residents in serious need are unable to receive important government services, and many non-profit organizations are unable to continue critically important work tied to state grants. Illinois’ state universities and community colleges may not be able to operate in the next semester of this academic year, leaving many students unable to graduate on time. The consequences are too great. We cannot let this situation continue.”

Apparently the governor agreed, and on Friday send his own letter to Madigan, Cullerton, Radogno and Durkin. The governor declines the reform groups’ offer to “facilitate the logistics” of a meeting, but otherwise welcomes the idea. Most remarkable is Rauner’s welcoming of doing the session in public. That’s unprecedented.

“For decades, Illinois’ budget has been largely negotiated by the governor and the four partisan House and Senate leaders,” wrote Associated Press political reporter John O’Connor. “It was a ritual during the last weeks of May that the hall in front of the governor’s second-floor Capitol office was a carousel of leading lawmakers entering and emerging from secret meetings.”

Will it happen? So far Rauner has commitments from Cullerton, Radogno and Durkin. Madigan agreed to the parameters set forth in the original invitation from the reform groups, but Rauner has proposed that he would set the agenda for meeting. Madigan’s spokesman said Friday that Madigan needs to see the agenda before committing to attend.O’Connor reported that it was Madigan who first warmed to the reform groups’ idea and suggested making the meeting public.

At this point, the odds favor the meeting taking place. Reports political columnist Greg Hinz of Crain’s Chicago Business:

(ICPR Coard Chair Susan) Garrett told me Madigan is justified in asking that the agenda be set by the entire group. “I think it’s important that all of the leaders are allowed to have input and that, ultimately, it’s an agreed agenda,” she said.

However, Garrett suggested that the agenda item is only a detail.

“I strongly believe this meeting’s going to happen,” Garrett said. “Public pressure” will force everyone to sit down together.

If this comes off, and if it really is a negotiating session and not just for show, it will be a fascinating chapter in Illinois politics.

Here’s Rauner’s letter:

October 23, 2015

Dear Speaker Madigan, President Cullerton, Leader Durkin and Leader Radogno:

Next week we will complete an unprecedented fourth month without a state budget. Over four months, it’s become clear that there are not enough votes to pass a tax increase in the General Assembly without also enacting much-needed structural reforms. In order to solve this budget impasse, we must come together to agree on a package of structural reforms that can save taxpayers billions alongside a balanced budget.


Over the last few weeks, I’ve met with each of you individually to try to move beyond this impasse.


I believe it’s time for all of us to meet as a group, and thanks to the invitation of a few advocacy groups, I understand everyone has availability on Wednesday, November 18 from 9:30AM to Noon and is interested in a public meeting. This is excellent news.


As you know, Leaders Meetings are held and conducted by the governor’s office. As such, while we appreciate the advocacy groups desire to be involved, we will pick up the organization of the meeting from here. We are happy to host the meeting in the governor’s office in either Springfield or Chicago and will coordinate with your office on the most appropriate media access (fully open, pooled press,streamed online, etc.).


We will also circulate an agenda in advance of the meeting. My chief of staff will reach out to your chief of staff to finalize scheduling and logistics.Thank you for your commitment to solving this impasse. I look forward to seeing you all soon and on November 18.

 

Here's mine Dan

 

Priceless Jim..... Absolutely priceless!!!!

Here's another one for you....

 

Up dated from the Governor of the State of Illinois web site :

The Unions are taking the State to court to prevent layoffs ... The State of Illinois Lottery is at a stalemate with winners who cannot and will not be paid until their is a resolve in the budget talks ... Don't look good kids ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

RAUNER TO DEMS: RETURN TO ILLINOIS BUDGET NEGOTIATING TABLE. DEMS TO RAUNER: WHAT TABLE?

RICH MILLER

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said last week that the state government’s backlog of unpaid bills will hit $8.5 billion by the end of December, up from about $6 billion right now.

That’s a headline grabbing number, since the end of December is not exactly the greatest time for people and companies that are owed money by the state. The state’s bill backlog was about $8 billion this past January, right after most of the 2011 state income tax hike expired. But the backlog fell to $3.5 billion by the end of July, and just $2.3 billion of those bills were more than 30 days overdue.

But let’s take a look at another estimate Comptroller Munger released last week.

The comptroller totaled up state spending from last fiscal year that isn’t currently being mandated by federal and state court decrees (Medicaid bills, state employee and judicial salaries, etc.), continuing appropriations (bond and pension payments, legislative salaries), a signed appropriations bills (K-12 education), and other things, and came up with $4.3 billion.

The $4.3 billion is the total amount that was paid out last year but is not currently being sent to colleges and universities, state employee health care providers, non-Medicaid social service providers, MAP Grant college student aid recipients, lottery winners over $25,000, plus various “transfers out,” including to local governments for things like motor fuel tax distributions.

Eventually, that money will have to be paid in full or in part, or significant portions of the state are gonna be in a big world of hurt.

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Absentee Ken Dunkin teaches Democrats their power has limits
So, the Senate Democrats stepped in last week and passed an appropriations bill which covers most of those state payments that aren’t already going out the door. The problem, of course, is that just because they passed a spending bill doesn’t mean there is any money to pay those bills.

And there are indeed no available state revenues to pay for most of those appropriations (with exception for money that comes out of “special funds” like the $582 million appropriated from the Motor Fuel Tax Fund).

It’s kinda like thinking you have money in your bank account because you still have plenty of checks.

All the Senate’s legislation would do is hasten the point at which the state physically runs out of money to pay any of its obligations. There’s already billions of dollars less coming into state coffers because of the January tax hike expiration, but the Senate bill would spend billions of dollars more.

The governor’s overall record on veto overrides so far this year has been 60 wins and 1 loss, with that one “loss” being a veto of Medicaid funding for heroin treatment which was overridden by both chambers and is therefore now law. But the governor agreed to Republican legislators’ demands to not oppose the override, and there are those who believe he only vetoed it so he could look like he was opposed to spending money on heroin addiction treatment, so it wasn’t really a “loss.”

It’s therefore more than reasonable to assume that even if the House Democrats do manage to get all 71 of their members to town later this month and pass the Senate’s spending legislation (probably a big “if” since one of those Democrats has tickets to see Pope Francis that very day), the governor will likely veto the thing and then the House Democrats will struggle in vain yet again to override. So, last week’s floor action could very well turn out to be futile. And even if they do override him, the governor doesn’t have to spend the money without a court order.

In an open letter to members last week, the governor’s chief legislative liaison urged the Senate Democrats to “come back to the negotiating table to pursue compromise, reform and a balanced budget,” to which the Senate Dems responded, “what is this ‘negotiating table’ that they speak of?'”

According to the Senate Democrats, the four legislative leaders and the governor have not met with each other since late May. And the governor refuses to even discuss the budget until the Democrats agree to address his “Turnaround Agenda.”

I just don’t know what to say any more.


State of Illinois web site news : WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

The Illinois General Assembly failed to pass a balanced budget for the new fiscal year, which starts on July 1. That means the state cannot spend money on any programs or services requiring an annual appropriation. There’s a lot of uncertainty about what this means, with predictions ranging from “most people won’t notice” to “Armageddon.”

Here are 10 things Illinoisans can expect as the state moves into the new fiscal year without a balanced budget:

1. No matter what stays open and what shuts down, state lawmakers will still get paid. State lawmakers will receive their paychecks no matter what happens or how long this budget impasse lasts. That’s because in 2014, House Speaker Mike Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton worked together to introduce and pass a law ensuring legislator salaries and operating expenses would be paid even if a balanced budget was not passed on time.

1. Without a state budget, there is the threat of a state government “shut down.” But operations won’t halt immediately. For most state programs and services, funds must be appropriated by the state on an annual basis through a budget. Without a budget, these programs and services will not receive funds from the state. However, that doesn’t mean these programs and services will immediately cease. Most will be able to withstand missing a payment or two without too much of an issue, recognizing that the state will likely appropriate money for those programs or services eventually. And vendors that provide state services already are paid months behind schedule, so they will keep receiving checks for services provided prior to July 1.

1. Schools will start on time. Rauner signed a bill on June 24 that ensures public schools are funded in fiscal year 2016, meaning students will be back in school on time even if the state fails to adopt a balanced budget.

1. Pension and debt payments can still be made. Pension and debt payments are continuing appropriations and by law do not need to be appropriated on an annual basis.

1. Essential services will continue. Services essential for the safety and welfare of the people of Illinois will continue. State police will continue working and state prisons will remain open and operational.

1. Local-government operations will continue. Cities, towns and villages will continue to receive their share of state income, sales and motor-fuel taxes.

1. Federal programs will continue. Programs funded or operated by the federal government will generally not be affected.

1. State parks, museums and casinos will remain open in the short term, but could close eventually.

1. Eventually, people who rely on state services will feel the pain. While some programs and services may be able to continue at least temporarily, the lack of state funding for some programs and services will have an effect on many Illinoisans. Funding for Medicaid, addiction services, child care services, rehab and the senior meal program funds will all cease. Providers of such services have been kept afloat by expedited payments from the state, and when such payments stop, these providers may choose to stop providing these services.

1. Illinoisans will still have to pay taxes.

The beat goes on ... WPT ... (YAC) ... For your viewing pleasure

 

"There is little indication that Mr Rauner, Mr Cullerton and Michael Madigan, the speaker of the House, will come to an agreement soon."

They can start by jointly admitting that their generation has robbed those coming after to enrich itself, and ought to be first in line for sacrifices.

Look beyond the conflict for public consumption, and look to the areas of quiet agreement.

All the cuts in pension benefits have affected newer and future employees. These employees, who don't get Social Security, are paying for more than 100 percent of their pensions -- subsidizing those who came before. Existing retirees are still getting 3 percent pension increases every year, more than inflation and far more than average private sector wage increases.

The Illinois state and local tax burden was below the U.S. average as a percent of personal income for decades. Now taxes have soared. But not for the retired, who have their retirement income exempted from state income taxes.

Sure they want to fight about the unions. Better than facing the reality of Generation Greed in the state with the second most sold out future in the country.

https://larrylittlefield.wordpress.com/2015/06/24/sold-out-futures-a-sta...

 

I am just having a very hard time thinking of what all of the facilities will look like if they are shuttered for even a year. I would think Climate changes will take it's toll on everything out there.

Going Telephonic would screw a lot of the points chasers, and the ATA surly does not want that to happen. Then they would loose even more shooters to other venues like Sporting Clays, etc.

Only my 2 cents on the issue

Dave

 

If the shoot (grand) goes telephonic certain clubs with be over run with points chasers while others won't have a check in line ... Personally, I don't see it happening or lets say working if in fact it does ... The elements that would/ could come into play would or could be from one extreme to another and that would not make many people very happy ... I cannot even imagine how the pay outs would be figured if they try to combine them which would not be fair to anyone who is facing less than favorable weather in any way compared to not ... I'm not sure even the die hard shooters would be standing in line to take their chances ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

That's not what Karla says...be patient.

 

The IDNR will make announcement Sparta will definently host the Grand American in 2016 within the next seven days and Dean Townsend is still leading candidate to assume the Sparta Directors position. There you have it from those in charge, currently shooting at the Autumn Grand at Tucson Trap and Skeet Club.

 

Thank you Seitz !

That is my "Gut Feeling" also, and Dean could, just maybe, do the deal and draw lots of folks back to the Grand.

 

I think that person is the director of the CHC and has accepted ATA funds that do not comply with IRS Non-profit 501(C3) as well as the BOD, EC, and will be denied Employment.

 

Nope, not Dean. I can just now begin to see the cloud of dust and hear the 1812 overture....yes...oh yeah... I'm sure I see Hampton riding in to save the ATA again!

 

Well here goes again. Forget everything I posted yesterday. It seems the great minds have determined a better plan for the Grand in 2016 would be for the ATA to rent the facility for 1,2 or 3 months and hold the Grand American under complete direction of the ATA. The ATA would come in and clean up Sparta, mow grass, get machines and supporting infrastructure ready to go and keep everything gained monetarily beyond the rental costs. I believe they would still have use union labor at Sparta. This idea was just presented to some of the vendors, I have been told. Wish I really knew the answer but this deal seems to change direction every couple hours. Great minds at work here!

 

In a conversation a couple months ago, Dean Townsend informed me that he was in fact on the list of candidates for managing the World Shooting and Recreational Complex in Sparta, but he believed there was a well-positioned worker within that State government who would probably get the position.

Since that time, newspaper reports have stated that the next director would come from a shooting background which led me to believe that Central Handicap Committee Chairman Townsend could very well be the next director of the Complex.

However, Jim Thompson's view that it more likely would be Mike Hampton is certainly thought-provoking. I don't know if Mr. Hampton submitted a resume or is even a candidate but the fact that he was Illinois' chief negotiator during the years leading up to the ATA's relocation may provide high marks for him in the eyes of the IDNR.

I'll await the official announcement.

 

"the ATA to rent the facility for 1,2 or 3 months" .... "keep everything gained monetarily beyond the rental costs"

That would put REAL meaning for a non profit charitable entity.

Employment alone would be interesting .... finding enough people, filling out the paperwork, making sure your Workers' compensation and other insurance is in compliance, making sure payroll 'funds' were handled in compliance for a "charitable entity". Would vendors and camping pay a rental 'fee' to the ATA, or make a donation ???? And many other 'details' that need would need 'solved' to make a reasonable 'offer' to "rent the facility".

Makes one wonder if the ATA would be up to the task of such a venture.

 

Don't they already do that during the Grand? Charitable entities can and do have paid employees.

 

Mike Hampton would be a Very, Very Bad Choice in my opinion

 

Has anyone read a Insurance Company Declarations Page ??????

Has anyone actually had "employees" ??????

Someone with the proper "logistics" background would need to be involved for something of that scope. Past ATA operations may not be something to use as a guide for future endeavors.

Does the ATA own grounds-keeping equipment ????? And have people properly trained to use it ????? If you own it or rent it, and who operates it matters to the Insurance Company.

Who gets the 'job' of dealing with all the security they have on the grounds ????? And who "pays" for it ????? If you have ever been in charge of an event that size, you would know that is not FREE.

 

And someone may want to inform them of proper restroom cleaning requirements. I would hate to see the shoot to get 'shut-down' for not having the proper MSDS sheets displayed, and not providing the proper PPE.

I am sure the State of Illinois would 'take care of the details' in the "rent" .... they say it only costs them a couple of hundred thousand per-month. The possible 2, 4, or 6 hundred thousand that the State may require 'to cover their cost' for a couple of weeks in wonder-land, sounds cheap to some .... or they expect to "rent" it for much less.

 

Can't imagine what the cost would be on a limited basis, it cannot be cheap to open, close and walk away till next time ... Some degree of maintaining the facility would no doubt be needed on a more or less continual basis ... The machines are at the point where they will need more and more repairs every year until they get replaced, the roadways are crumbling and in need of repair based on people observation at the last grand ... The more repairs that are needed and unattended the less appealing the place will be ... As mentioned "Security" would be costly being as it cannot be on a limited basis , insurance is out of sight even with a limited risk factor ... Got to sit back and watch this, hope it all goes well but won't be betting any money on it ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

A perfect opportunity for all the members that live within an hours drive or so of sparta to donate their time to help open and close the joint. Of course the "volunteers" would have to bring their own lawn mowers and weed whackers and gas to power them.

They, the ATA, would probably have to turn many away because of the overwhelming response from the large number of members that live around that "centrally located" facility.

Almost forgot, they will have to bring their own lunch. The ATA will I'm sure provide the liquid refreshment. Something with a lot of sugar content to keep everyone energized?

FlyersAREbest

 

I'm pretty sure any work done on the Sparta facility would have to be done by union employees. Probably those laid off. Just an educated guess.

 

FlyersAREbest is giving very good information but I think more realistically it would or should be the residents of Sparta and the surrounding area in the region, the EC and most of the BOD should Volunteer being as they have the most to gain by the WSRC's being in operation and contributing 10 to 12 million dollars to the local and regional economy ... That's a lot of MOOLA, where I come from and a months work even figuring long days that's well above the $15.00 minimum wages as well as a community services to the people of the town proper and southern Illinois ... The State should actually provide lunches for all of the workers to balance out the scales if the residents bring their own mowers, gas, sickles, pitch forks, and power wagons ... The same people can do the scoring and judging after extensive training and in between squads do weed control and sweep the side walks, they do have side walks don't they ..? I think this can work if they all put their nose to the grind stone and understand its only a month or so out of 12 months, which is not a lot to give to the community to make it prosper ... I see a very "Positive Direction" and movement that might catch on and spread as we all let freedom ring and God Bless America ... By God, I think this will work, no more problem ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

The Autumn Grand is over and everyone's probably back home by now so we'll have to wait and see what the real plan is. Don't know if we have any undercover operatives in the Sparta area so I guess we're in the dark for awhile. I do hope Roger is still with us. I heard there were three guys in white uniforms after him in the Tucson Gun Club parking lot. They got on to the property unnoticed in their white van with skeet advertising on the sides. I'll bet they want to reeducate Roger and convince him the eight machines were just a figment of his imagination. That is if they can catch him.

 

The Tucson club has proved to be a Premiere shooting establishment thanks to good management, proper planning, location, and backing ... That's what happens when a club is run by shooters for shooters ... The ATA should pay close attention to what and how it's done at some of the bigger clubs and apply it accordingly ... The ATA needs all of the clubs all across the country and in Canada, the clubs do not need the ATA to prosper ... If the big shoots were not registered and the money (ATA fees and State fees) were applied to pay outs the money shooters would still attend and be content and the pay outs would be considerably more when all is said and done ... It would be interesting to see what kind of turn out a club would get if it advertised a non registered shoot on the same scale as the Autumn Grand and see what happens ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Fewer care ever day.

 

Question --- When is the proper time to say I told you so? Answer ---- Right about now. Brad

 

Arizona is looking up, The Ohio State Buckeyes and Notre Dame are in town, Ohio State Fans are in town by the 10,000 of Thousands, for the Game and Weather.

Gary Bryant.........................Dr,longshot

 

Its been unseasonably cold ... Not used to this kind of weather anymore ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Gipson has been unusually silent or is it that there are no cameras around for him to proclaim the fantastic direction?

 

Lynn ( the broken record, talking head ) Gipson probably got tired of saying the same thing over and over and finally figured out that the State of Illinois had actual facts and figures accumulated by their auditors about the region over the time span since the opening extravaganza of the WSRC as well as long before that ... The amount of tax revenues actually decreased in the region after the opening of the facility ( hard to believe ) but that is what the State claimed ... The State claims over 22,000 residents have opted to relocate to other states and rebuild their life rather than pay the increases the state needs to try and stay solvent ... The accumulated costs the State is claiming at this point is in excess of 12 Billion dollars in the rears and growing ... Gov Rauner told the Democrats to pass a budget and present it to him and as long as some of the bases he wants covered are covered he will sign it, the democrats have not submitted anything as of yet .... I have kept up on reading the States sites and there is and never been any mention of the State parks (WSRC is a State Park) in any of the talks other than they need an estimated 720 Million dollars in repairs between them mostly to insure the public's safety ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

Reference sites :

Reboot Illinois.com

Ill Gov. Rauners Office (updates) on google

Ill. IDNR (Google)

WSRC (google)

Shoot ATA.com

These sites will give additional links and information to anyone who is interested ...