ATA HOF Chairman James Bradford to OSTA - Ludicrous - In Letter OSTA morality clause.

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  1. merlo

    merlo Mega Poster Forum Reporter

    I received this letter supposedly authored by Mr James Bradford, whom is also an Ex ATA President. It is directed towards the OSTA regarding the removal of Ohio HOF Members.

    My pals in the trenches tell me the OSTA President did not want this published or relayed to the directors. The letter appears real.

    I report. You decide.
    merlo out.
     

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  2. BRAD DYSINGER

    BRAD DYSINGER The Philosophist Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Just Joe I can't read this pdf. What's this about?
     
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  3. just joe

    just joe Administrator Staff Member

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  4. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    What a shame the OSTA President wouldn’t allow the OSTA Directors to receive this letter via the normal channels. Someone should have warned him that this would happen.

    Brad,
    The PDF opened for me. Please have the I.T. department at Thornbottom (Paula) open it for you.
     
  5. Ed Budreau

    Ed Budreau Active Member Founding Member

    I agree 100% with what is stated in the Letter!!!!!!!
     
  6. Ron Burdick

    Ron Burdick Well-Known Member Founding Member

    This letter from the same guy that is keeping Daro Handy out of the ATA Hall of Fame.

    Ron B
     
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  7. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Just a note to Mr Bradford

    This mysterious vote does not appear in the minutes. That is in contrast to the statements of Ex OSTA President Blair. All this started under his watch. He is quoted as saying he intends to be an ATA VP.

    Another interesting co inky dink. Blair is still the Delegate for Ohio. If he is doing his job, why does James Bradford have to intercede?

    Answer,,,,,he was the OSTA President and Delegate at the same time. A big conflict in my opinion.

    The new OSTA President was under Blair. If reports are correct he did not want this letter given to the Directors, OH has some serious issues.
     
  8. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame


    Don, After all the smoke that a few of the folks involved have blowed up our (ear channel) is it any suprise that they would allow anything other than their cancel culture agenda to come to the attention of all people involved? The alleged unanimous vote, the story that was so emotionally read from a unnamed boy and his unnamed father, the very subjective word salad by laws change that would be used retroactively, and not following the intent and guidelines as to what a HOF is meant to be.

    When the sports HOF's started coming to be the language to be used was very carefully thought out and put in place to insure that after induction nothing would ever be changed That is why the words (forever) and (enshrined) were the cornerstone words used. What could be more permanent and absolute than these words?

    My questions are is it a personal dislike, jealousy, lack of understanding trapshooting history, or just total disregard for the sanctity of our HOF? Please put the picture back to it's proper place, return the name to the State Shoot Program and let our beautiful Ohio HOF return to its proper status and intent. This is really not about just a person, it is about what a HOF is meant to be and please read Mr. Bradford's thoughts that were intended to be read by everyone involved.

    Dave Berlet
     
  9. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

  10. paBOB

    paBOB Well-Known Member

    Mr Berlet

    I admire your bravery. There aren’t many that are willing to stand up and be counted. There wouldn’t be a woke world if there were more men like yourself. Fortunately we have a website that encourages this.

    Some officers of the OSTA think they are bigger, brighter, and smarter than the founders of the OSTA HOF.

    We haven’t removed anyone in PA yet. We are now reminded to be vigilant.

    I hear there is a group that wants to remove those from the meetings that would stand with you. That shows their weakness. Fight on.
     
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  11. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame


    paBob Thanks for the kind words. It is so sad as it seems that a few of our officials have almost total disregard for the truth and they have very little knowledge and understanding of our trapshooting history and they care very little if it is preserved for future generations of trapshooters to enjoy and learn from.

    I was told by one that O J Simpson had been removed from the Football HOF. No he has not been removed and never will be and when I documented this they said well whatever and walked away. Another told me that Pete Rose had been removed from the Baseball HOF. I replied that he could not have been removed because he was never inducted. Their reply was that if he had been in they would have taken him out. Mr. Bradford was sent a email telling him that his letter would be forwarded to everyone involved, but this didn't happen and the offical didn't even have the common courtesy to inform him of this. I could go on but this just a couple of examples. I just don't understand why all of this B S and cancel culture has to undermine our great sport.

    Dave Berlet
     
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  12. bobski

    bobski USN Retired Range Owner

    dave, socialisms goal is to erase history....so they can write their own the way they want it to read. its fooled a lot of good americans.
     
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  13. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    TTT
     
  14. Bullet1014

    Bullet1014 Member

    Here's you HOF'er upload_2023-12-9_20-27-37.png
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  15. Union Strong

    Union Strong Mega Poster

    He as never found guilty.
     
  16. Bullet1014

    Bullet1014 Member

    But he was found dead
     
  17. HCarl

    HCarl Active Member

    Boys, can’t we all just get along?
     
  18. Union Strong

    Union Strong Mega Poster

    I would bet my right arm Bullet is from Middletown area. Ex OSTA President and his followers are from there. We don’t need them or their stupid morality.

    Unfortunate that guy didn’t get a trial.
     
  19. HCarl

    HCarl Active Member

    What kept him from getting a trial?
     
  20. Bullet1014

    Bullet1014 Member

    Trial by gun fire. I guess he wasn't as good of a shot as his followers/nominater thought he was
     
  21. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    His "followers/nominator"?

    Here is something you can "follow".

    Tread lightly with this type of post. Taking a swipe at the person that nominated him is like walking in a mine field.

    FAIR WARNING !

    Flyersarebest
    Moderator
     
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  22. Don Cogan

    Don Cogan Bird Hunter Past OSTA President Founding Member

    More than 500 years ago a fellow named Christopher Columbus did some note worthy things. For centuries he has been celebrated in the USA and some other countries. The United States still has a federal holiday for his birthday. Yet the woke crowd demolishes his statues and wants him removed from the history books because of his unethical treatment of native peoples. They want a couple other fellows named Washington and Jefferson stricken from the history books too. I’ve even heard rumblings of removing Washington and Jefferson’s image from Mt. Rushmore to make room for former President Obama. You see, the woke crowd is 100% convinced of their own moral superiority and their God given right to tell the rest of us what is or isn’t acceptable. It’s the same crowd that insists a woman has the right to choose what happens to her body when getting an abortion while at the same time protesting that nobody should have the right to refuse a Covid vaccine. Once again proving that they know best and the rest of us should just sit quite and accept their wisdom. Who or what will be the next target of this self proclaimed erudite crowd? I’d just as soon learn all the actual facts and decide for myself what’s good and what’s bad.
     
  23. EUREKA Post 2

    EUREKA Post 2 Active Member Past State President

    Anyone can make a crappy poster…..

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    Posters are just posters. This guy never got fair trial.
     
  24. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Shame on you you just can't help yourself, you just gotta hammer on the dead guy. I nominated him. The hall of fame selection committee brought his name forward, and the OSTA board brought him forward to induction. At the point of induction he became FOREVER INSHRINED and even removing his picture or anything else he will still be FOREVER INSHRINED even if a few political correct cancel culture people disagree.

    Dave Berlet
     
  25. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

  26. oleolliedawg

    oleolliedawg Mega Poster Founding Member

    Momma always said "never speak bad of the dead". It gets hard not to sometimes.
     
  27. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

  28. Frogman

    Frogman Active Member Founding Member

    Again if were going to keep ttt this I will play. Maybe I see this different because I did not know the man. But it is obvious that this man became unhinged long before that final day. Are his defenders saying that the Knox county prosecuters, Knox county Sheriff's department and the United States Marshall's along with all the people in the court room that heard his threats are lying?
     
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  29. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Froggy, The people that knew him before his down fall, feel he was a wronged. Roger C.
     
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  30. HCarl

    HCarl Active Member

    I’d bet the people he beat, threatened, intimidated and shot at feel like they were wronged as well.
     
  31. Union Strong

    Union Strong Mega Poster

    Like who? Please tell us what you don’t know.
     
  32. Union Strong

    Union Strong Mega Poster

    The U S Marshall? lol. He was never convicted. DOJ is after Trump too. He was a great trap shooter and is honored as such.

    I can decide for myself. We dont need the woke crowd in trapshooting tearing down statues like the democrats.
     
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  33. tarpmaker

    tarpmaker Well-Known Member

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    Look like the fringe left in the OSTA?

    Since Jack passed, there has been a leadership vacuum in the OSTA. When that happens folks like Blair get elected. This too will pass.

    jmho. Those that have sought to divide us by removing faces in the HOF have disqualified themselves from the sport.

     
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  34. Frogman

    Frogman Active Member Founding Member

    Roger

    I understand they thought he was wronged and maybe he was. You dont argue, fight, or run from the police. Nothing good will come of it.
     
  35. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    What happens after induction into the H.O.F. has no influence on the inductee. HE WAS INDUCTED ON HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS NOT ON HIS FUTURE HAPENINGS. The ignorant people that were in charge should be removed for their stupidity. ROGER C.
     
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  36. Frogman

    Frogman Active Member Founding Member

    I do think it matters. So we just disagree. And thats ok. the people that are so passionate about this should volunteer there time and run for the OSTA get elected and make the change.
     
  37. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    Frogman, What is your connection to this problem? Do you have a dog in this fight? Roger C.
     
  38. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Frog I am quite confident of the abilities of the representatives for our zone. I'm quite sure that they do understand our English language so I can't understand why anyone would want to run against them.

    Dave Berlet
     
  39. Frogman

    Frogman Active Member Founding Member

    All, Ok do nothing but talk.
     
  40. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Actually not honoring (Forever Enshrined) in our HOF structure is similar in meaning to believing that the (Bill of Rights)i is not a vital part to our United States constitution. The language of our HOF was purposely put there and it means exactly what it states.

    Dave Berlet
     
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  41. Frogman

    Frogman Active Member Founding Member

    Roger

    I am a Ohio resident and a active trapshooter. Unfortunately had a run in at the cardinal center with a US Marshall and the bail bondsman who had his car shot up the day before by Randy. This is also a discussion forum and it keeps getting ttt so i gave my opnion.
     
  42. Jim/Canton

    Jim/Canton Mega Poster

    Frog…..
    I heard this mentioned several times. Your SW Zone should be embarrassed.
     
  43. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Lets not make our HOF the victim.
    Put the picture back and leave the HOF be what it is meant to be.

    Dave Berlet
     
  44. shortbarrel

    shortbarrel Well-Known Member

  45. shortbarrel

    shortbarrel Well-Known Member

    ttt for Dave
     
  46. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame


    Thank you

    Dave Berlet
     
  47. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet State HOF Founding Member Member Trapshooting Hall of Fame Member State Hall of Fame

    Randy was nominated. He was selected. He was put forward to induction. He was inducted, and he was (forever enshrined). Yet some of the folks involved don't seem to have enough grasp of our English Language to realize that (forever enshrined) means "permanent" So sad that this topic is still festering.

    Dave Berlet
     
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  48. Roger Coveleskie

    Roger Coveleskie State HOF Founding Member Member State Hall of Fame

    David, Most people can read, very few can comprehend what they read. sad but true.
    the very few are the hopeless cases we must live with. Roger C.