Mec Electric vs Hydraulic

Discussion in 'Reloading Bench' started by Jim Hancock, Feb 25, 2021.

  1. Jim Hancock

    Jim Hancock Active Member

    All,

    Too many ortho issues to pull the lever manual.....have 9000 series reloader , which do you recommend? Anyone have one for sale? Thanks
     
  2. 635 G

    635 G Mega Poster

    Electric much safer, need two hands to use, had a bud get his thumb mashed under a hydraulic and if the hydraulics leak you got a mess
     
  3. Wayne J

    Wayne J Mega Poster

    Electric all the way.
     
  4. nickthanos

    nickthanos Well-Known Member

    I have been using the MEC 9000H's for 30 years, & love em. No leaks, and smooth operation. I have three of them. No matter electric or hydraulic, don't put your fingers in the mechanism. I like them because when you take your foot off the petal, they come back up.
     
  5. nickthanos

    nickthanos Well-Known Member

    Just like you should not need a warning label to not put a plastic bag on your baby's head. Or caution, this respirator not for use under water.
     
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  6. Chris Carr

    Chris Carr Member

    The automate is quieter and you can get a foot peddle for it. My hydraulic leaks oil it’s only a year old and the one before that leaked oil too
     
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  7. david j burke

    david j burke Active Member

    I had a hydraulic, too noisy in the basement bunker. I also run two electric MECs with MokeMate foot pedal. Great accessory.
     
  8. southjblue

    southjblue Well-Known Member

    I have 4 H's Love them They do leak some but a small piece of paper towel around the leak
    works fine---U can always find a flaw but my H's work just fine---$ wise on a good used H will
    be great also---Price a used elect compared to a H and U will do very well with the H.
    JMO----Go H's and have fun as I do---Been using them for yrs.
    SJB
     
  9. southjblue

    southjblue Well-Known Member

    Another note----I don't see how U can get a finger stuck on a H -- U load the empty hull
    in station 1 and a wad on Station 3 then take hands away from machine and press foot pedal.
    Guess it can happen but U have to have your mind some ware off what your doing.
    Rembert safety 1st--- Speed is trouble---I can load 25 shells in 6 minutes
    I have a rotator cuff tear in right shoulder and pulling handle down on a 9000G is out of the ?
    SJB
     
  10. southjblue

    southjblue Well-Known Member

    The only place mine leak is around the hose connection which is very small leak--I have one that don't leak because I tighten
    up the connection, The other leaks are so SMALL that the time to correct is not necessary.
    I've been using the H for yrs and never had a leak issue,
    Since your looking for an automatic unit, either will work fine.
    SJB
     
  11. Jim Hancock

    Jim Hancock Active Member

    Thank you all for information. On the look for a used one.
     
  12. Av8or

    Av8or Member

    I added a MokeMate foot pedal to my 9000G and it is a real game-changer. There are videos on YouTube. I think I paid $50
     
  13. Ralph Dudley

    Ralph Dudley Member

    Was having shoulder issues while using my 9000G until I installed the Automate about 2 months ago. Shoulder issues are gone and now I couldn't reload any other way. Found the Automate easy and safe to use. The Automate offers less noise than hydraulic systems I have seen and it is easier to relocate the reloader.
     
  14. augustb

    augustb Member

    I have the automate with the pedal and it works great.
     
  15. augustb

    augustb Member

    I had the automate with the foot peddle and that is the answer to fast reloading. You get a hull and wad in your hands while you are cycling the machine and you can get a lot of ammo loaded in a hurry. I recently bought a Spolar with the hydraulics and while the hydraulics are smoother you do have the constant hum of the pump. It is powered both up and down because reloading processes happen on both strokes.
     
  16. JB Lewis

    JB Lewis Member

    Electric, buy the foot pedal. it frees up another hand.
     
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  17. Ken Jossenberger

    Ken Jossenberger Member Founding Member

    Had a H for several years, finally bit the dust. Salvaged the good parts, motor & hoses, gave them to a buddy of mine who has an H. I also have a G. Purchased a Automate w/ linkage and the fun began. The H base doesn't fit on the Automate, so I swapped mainsprings, handle and linkage between the two i.e. converted the G to a "H" and H to a "G" and mounted the converted G on the Automate. After a few adjustments, everything is up and running.
     
  18. g7777777

    g7777777 Mega Poster

    I have had a Hydraulic and it was great
     
  19. Dale

    Dale Member

    I've got a full set of hydraulics set up with quick disconnects & love them.
    That being said, they a little noisy, and there's no way OSHA would allow them in a factory without serious guards! The hydraulics can and will take off a finger without even a grunt. Yes, you've got to be careful, very careful!
    As far as speed, my understanding is that the hydraulics are faster than electric, but at the speed of each, who really cares?
    All in all, I think that an automate with a foot pedal would be my choice. However, I was able to buy my full set for a little over the price of a new 900gn in 410, so there there wasn't much to think about.
    For what it's worth, once you have either an automate or a hydraulic set up, you'll never understand how you loaded any other way.
     
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  20. RednBlue

    RednBlue Active Member

    I have 4 9000HN. I like the foot pedal the best. It frees up my hands and just make better flow for reloading. I had a Automate. Nice nothing wrong with it for reloading. I just like the foot pedal better.
     
  21. Ken Jossenberger

    Ken Jossenberger Member Founding Member

    You can get a foot pedal for the auto-mate....
     
  22. amboy49

    amboy49 Well-Known Member

    As full disclosure I’ve never owned the hydraulic version. I had four MEC 9000 reloaders ( all four gauges) and had no issues pulling the handle. A shooting friend of mine decided to get out of shooting and offered me four 9000’s, the automate, several bags of shot, some primers, once fired AA hulls, and some wads at a price so ridiculously low I won’t disclose it. It was too good to pass up.

    I’ve been using the automate for several months to load 12 and 20 gauge shells. Here are my general conclusions:

    The automate is not faster. As mentioned, I have no ortho issues preventing me from comfortably and continuously reloading a few hundred shells at each session at the reloading bench. I will also admit don’t get in a big hurry and volume is not that important to me as a general rule I don’t shoot more than a couple hundred rounds a week.

    As we all know, loading 28 gauge and especially .410 bore can be a bit tricky on any progressive reloader. The .410 hulls “wobble” and shot spillage is commonplace when explicit attention is not given to every up and down stroke. When you are pulling the handle you can “feel” if there is a problem. I.e. Hull getting crushed in the resize/deprime station because the hull didn’t drop down due shot in the collet or whatever. When pulling the handle you can feel this - with the automate it just keeps traveling through the downstroke and crushes the hull easily only to be discovered as the shell plate trying to advance.

    Another disadvantage is what happens when the down or upstroke fails to complete a full cycle. Almost always operator error is the cause of this issue, but it happens nonetheless. It’s difficult to easily describe the corrective action necessary to get the machine back in operation, but it is quite involved. “Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast” certainly applies in any reloading process.

    It is impossible (well nothing’s impossible) to get a finger mashed because it takes both hands to push each of the two buttons on the automate simultaneously to operate each stroke.
    If I would be purchasing a new setup I don’t don’t think I would load anything but 12 and 20 on the automate.