Discussion in 'History Buffs' started by Sgoose, Feb 3, 2019.
This is pic the Four B who are they. Some for Sunday morning.
The 4 B are from left to right G L Becker, John Browning, A P Bigelow and Matt Browning.
First post Feb. 3rd, answer post March, 9th
Damn, If I only had another couple of minutes I know I could have figured it out.
Well maybe next times
I`m guessing it`s from a Browning book...
Close but not from Browning Book. Look at the shotgun they are using
In 1897 John M. Browning was using a Winchester.
So, the Four B's are identified.
Gustav Leslie Becker
John Moses Browning
Archibald Pierce Bigelow
Matthew Sandefur Browning
These shooters were actually members of the famous Five B's squad.
Who was the 5th squad member?
John M. Browning invented the Winchester slide action. Originally, the 1893 then became the 1897 which morphed into the Model 12.
But then, you all knew that, right?
The original patent for the Model 1893 & Model 1897. Invented by the two brothers.
I grew up in Utah. As I loved guns from youth, John M. and his legacy company were my heroes.
John died in Liege Belgium at his lab in the FN factory working to perfect the design for the single trigger for his Superposed (the first over/under) which trigger design was perfected by, I believe, his son (Val?) after he died. He came out with the O/U first and Remington copied the idea and engineered the M-32 (Which was actually released in 1931 I believe.)
(Another fun fact, JMB is attributed to have invented the O/U in the late 1920s but in fact, he had first "invented" the O/U concept and built some around 1880 but he didn't pursue it because he was so darn busy inventing and facilitating the manufacture and distribution of his inventions. (Often, for wars and such.) In his old age he returned lovingly and a bit urgently to the O/U project because that was what HE wanted to shoot.)
Heck. He invented or co-invented damn near everything we all shoot, in about any configuration.
If there was ever a greater firearms genius than John M. Browning, I'd be interested to know who that might me.
Jakearoo, I think you selected a mighty fine hero.
Truly appreciate your comments on Mr. Browning. I read somewhere that John M. Browning was granted 128 firearm related patents.
John & Matthew offered the Browning Bros. Challenge Cup in 1901. It was emblematic of the trapshooting championship of Utah. Sure would like to see that 2 ft. high silver and gold trophy.
John and Matt sometimes shot with brothers George, Sam & Ed.
Browning Bros. also put up the Intermountain League trophy for Utah's base ball teams in 1901.
I was wondering why some notable shooters from that period have been overlooked by the Utah Trapshooting Hall of Fame. Hope the selection committee doesn't consider their lower scores. Back then the flights and angles rules were different. Usually wider and longer. Scores of 90 or better were considered great shooting.
Sure would like to see a little Utah trap history on the State Association webpage.
Here's how the Ogden Gun Club threw targets in 1901.
A clue to the name of the 5th B.
Like Matthew Browning, this gentleman shooter was a well-known businessman and also was elected Mayor of Ogden, Utah.
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Thomas Samuel Browning
Excellent guess Shotshell99,
T. S. Browning would have been one of my guesses as well since he was in fact a shooter, elected mayor of Ogden, Utah and last name starting with the letter "B."
However, while its a great and logical guess, it is unfortunately incorrect.
Dagnabit! Ok, howsabout George Emmet Browning?
Check that, Alexander M. Brewer. Final answer. Thanks for posting another clue!
George E. Browning is another logical and excellent answer. Like his brother Thomas Samuel, he was both a shooter and also served as mayor of Ogden, UT from 1926-27. If memory serves me, these two brothers were half-brothers to Matt and John (same father, different mothers).
But, George was not a member of the Five "B" squad.
You're narrowing down the list Shotshell99. Good job.
That's a good picture of Alex L. Brewer, Ogden Mayor, businessman, trapshooter and a member of the Five "B's". Great job Shotshell99. You are a fellow HistoryBuff.
ALEXANDER LESLIE BREWER
23 SEP 1866, London, ENG – 16 SEP 1937, Ogden, UT
Family Immigrated to U.S. in 1868
Won 2nd Place Medal at Amateur Shooting Club 30OCT1888 8 of 10 glass balls
Secretary of Ogden Gun Club – 1890
Married Clara WEST 09 DEC 1891 at Logan, Cache, UT
Incorporated Fruit Canning Co. – DEC 1900
Promoted Trapshooting Tournaments – 1901
Member of Five B’s Squad – 1900, 1901
Candidate for Mayor – Oct 1907
Elected Mayor of Ogden – NOV 1907 – 1909
Lost Run For Ogden Mayor to Ora Bundy - NOV1929
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