Are the K80 logo guns a lower quality? I hear the ejectors may be a little different. If I buy one what should I watch for?
If I was going to buy a "logo gun", I would want the trigger updates. They changed the types of trigger springs after the "logo guns". I have had the "old" ejectors with the set screws and the "new" type with the spring and ball. I see no real advantage of new vs old, other than you don't have to worry about the set screw backing out and damaging the sides of the receiver. If I was buying ANY used K-80, a "new logo gun" would be hard to find, I would make sure the barrel or barrels were properly fit to the receiver. Many people just put parts together without having them fit for the proper "head-space".
A LOGO gun has had so many updates, some free some are charged for, I believe there have 4-5 Hammer updates alone, then there is Triggers and sears There are a lot of pieces in a K-80 Reciever Trigger Mechanism
K-80 Centennial Receivers (referred to as K-80 Signature Series) I believe Krieghoff only made 100 of these Combo's and they sold for $7,150.
Roger, The above advertisement is from April 1980. I have an old file or document I compiled somewhere of the history of the K-80 gun and Kay Ohye's involvement in its engineering. I'll see if I can locate it. I don't know why it's not in my Krieghoff file. I believe they started working on the design in 1979 and introduced it in 1980 but I must first confirm this. It's a guess from my rusty memory. Note the New Jersey address for contact and information at the bottom of Ad. That's Mr. Ohye's old address in North Brunswick. Also note that they mispelled Heinz and Dieter's last name near the top. HB
I had heard that the "K" was for KAY, and the 80 was for 1980, but you know how stories get around... Now I know for sure. Thanks HB
Actually around late 1979 and the first ones were called TRAP 80's. I sold a few of those when I worked for Hunting's Gun Shop in NJ. I don't believe the "Kay" story is based on fact!
Dawg, I always heard the rumor but never knew if it was true. For some reason I seemed to recall reading that Kay did assist in improving the initial K-80 and I thought it was in Trap & Field but just can't seem to find anything in my files. I really thought I had saved it. Anyway, I took a look at Kay's last book "My Journey" (2010) and found the below comments offered for the book by Dieter Krieghoff himself. Mr. Krieghoff does give much credit Mr. Ohye. I do take issued with Dieter's statement that "the Un-single barrel was an extremely new concept unknown by any other gunmaker to this point." I have records of an un-single barrel engineered from over-under gun barrels back in 1971 by Marvin A. Davis, of Santa Barbara, CA . He called it the "Undergun." In later years, (1978), before Krieghoff's K-80, I.A.B. (Industria Armi Bresciane) of Italy sold a Super Combo C-300 calling it an "un-gun." In an article that appeared in Trap & Field (May) that year, the writer (Art Blatt) stated that "the un-gun makes a lot of sense, otherwise major gunmakers like Perazzi, Franchi and a few others wouldn't have jumped on the bandwagon." Enjoy Our History ! HB
Thanks HB ! So it looks like the "K" was for Krieghoff rather than Ohye. Kay had a lot to do with the gun's fine tuning, but the original was the Krieghoff -80. Interesting ! Learning something new every day
You're right oleolliedawg, a write up on the Krieghoff Model 80 with Trap 80 on the sides of the receiver, appeared in the September 1979 issue of Trap & Field.