Did the last one out turn off the lights? WSRC! Electric Bill!

This came to me with the following message.....

Turn out the lights. The party's over.


Merlo out.

 

It appears former Illinois Senator Dan Kotowski might get his wish without further anti-gun work on his part.

 

Just thinking, who's bill is this? Is the HOF part of this bill? There's year round vendors operating out of the WSC I believe, are they part of this bill? Would love to get some answers but I'll bet nobody wants to touch this one. The anti-gun Illinois politicians are going to have a field day with this kind of information. Who is going to get state or dept approval to pay this? That darn Merlo seems to be well connected to someone in the know.

 

As Gomer Pyle would say .... "Garsh, Sha-zam, Gall-lee"

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Didn't see that in the minutes.

 

Just give the Egyptian Power Company an MOU.

 

Can't wait to see the spin the other Kool Aid drinkers put on this. I guess the state will cough up the payment but wait, they don't have any money do they?

 

Who pays this now?

 

Delegates? Where are the delegates?

 

If they turn it off it will have to be paid in full before it can be turned back on. I hope they pay it before the Grand week. Roger C.

 

First we want to thank you very much for your more than generous donation as a Signature Sponsor.

Happy to do it. It really feels good to donate to a great shooting organization. What are the plans for all the money I'm donating?
Prize money?
Trophies?
Paying all the people that you need to hold this great shoot?
Maybe just sprucing the place up?
How about that HOF building place I've heard about?

Well, yes, we are going to use SOME of it for that. There is one little matter that has to be taken care of first.

 

I do not think they have that much time before the dis-connect. How many other electric bills are owed by the state of Illinois? Do you remember the Illinois State Patrol Officers State credit cards were denied at the gas stations, and officers had to pay for the gas they put in their Cruisers/

GB............................DLS

 

Notice for Grand American Competitors,
All shooters must bring their own portable generator and gas can to compete!

 

I understand the ATA will soon be working to identify shooters who are in possession of manual clay target throwers. They will be asked to bring their machines to the WSC for the upcoming Grand competition. Hopefully there will be a fair compensation package available. Something on the order of 25 free targets each day.

 

The State has yet to pay the electric bill for the Capitol Building complex also, probably a few other bills over looked also to the tune of over 7 Billion dollars (claimed by the comptroller ) in the rears ...
I cannot help but feel this grand will so cost prohibitive only a few of the very well healed "might" show up , though can't imagine why ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

ATTENTION ATA & WSRC

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I don't think you have to worry about the last person to leave to tun off the lights

Gary Bryant............................Dr.longshot

 

Anybody else notice the usage graph showing more usage in Sept than August when the Grand is held. Just wondering why.

 

The usage would be all the camping with A/C on full time, vendors being in their buildings, lights for shoot-offs, and some additional usage for the traps.

 

Bring back old Ora Atherton, and his hand pulling genius ...

No electrical power needed here...just good old man power.

 

Or they could go back a little earlier...

 

That bill is for reading date 01/01/2016 .... just think what it will look like by reading date 08/01/2016 .... if not paid or turned off by then.

 

Aug bill is the amount used in July. Sept bill is the amount used in Aug. They àre always a month behind

 

That is correct, just like my electric bill

GB...............DLS

 

Big Don has spoken! The electric bill is part of a bigger problem and has been explained. No problem. I'm sure Big Don is referring to the fact the state is in arrears on many electric bills for state offices and such and the state is saying they will all be paid when funds become available. So you all have the answer from Big Don, as explained many power bills are overdue and they really are no problem. Thank Heaven we have Big Don to straighten things out.

 

Just when you think it can't get any worse it does!

 

What delegate cares?

 

Rumor has it REA Egyptian Electric is going to turn off Electric to WRSC Feb 1st, the power company is an Investor Rural Electric Power Company owned by Residential customers and cannot absorb any more costs.

GB.............................DLS

 

Egyptian's to shut off Sparta power. lolololol

 

Well, it's Feb. 1st. Are the electric meters still turning at the WSRC?

 

No buddy there Dan, don't know.

 

I have it on good authority that one Delegate has asked for the ATA's estimated cost for the MOU's lease of the grounds and an itemized list of those estimated expenses.

Hooray! We've got one so far.

 

One, well that's a start ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Kenny... I agree it's a start in the right direction. That being said, it's a long way from asking for it and actually getting it..... Time will tell....

 

Lights are still on!

 

Where? Not on the trap fields.

 

Can anyone tell me if the roadway is in need of repair?

Buildings (leaking roofs, etc ?) in need of repair ?

And how about the trap houses after ten years of weather ?

Just trying to get an assessment on the situation out there.

 

All questions that should have been asked by every delegate! I doubt anyone out there has a delegate that cared that much.

 

Rauner vetoed the funds that were needed to fix the road at the WSRC. That was in the summer by line item veto.

 

Bad news, If the state of Ill. gave the WSC to the ATA, we could not afford the place. The up keep and property taxes would be very high. The other shooting sports could not make up the extra finances needed to operate the location. We can not afford another mess like the one with the HOF fiasco. The people that festered that gift to the state should be investigated to see if they are either crooked or stupid. Either way they should be held accountable for the neferious actions. Roger C.

 

Roger
The members will be voting with their wallets this year.

 

Did I read a while back that the DNR guaranteed the Vendors who rent space out there at least 3 major shoots each year ???

I guess I am looking for verification because my old age causes me to sometimes get the "so many" things I read mixed up.

 

BUDGET + TAX / Article

Good-faith negotiation and trust were foundational to all of the deals made, but some Statehouse Democrats pushed for extreme solutions while others were actively compromising.

After months of political stalemate in Springfield, the week of Nov. 8 saw a flurry of policymaking activity occur in the form of deals and votes, leaving many Illinoisans wondering whether progress was in fact made.

So, was it?

In short, Illinoisans finally saw instances of compromise and can take this week as a step in the right direction.

That said, the good-faith negotiation and trust required to make progress did not appear to be demonstrated by all Democrats in Springfield, some of whom pushed for extreme solutions while others were actively compromising.

Here’s what happened:

• Child care: SB 570, a bill intended to roll back Gov. Bruce Rauner’s cuts to child care while also removing his authority to make emergency rule changes to child care in the future, failed to pass the House of Representatives on Nov. 10. In July, the Rauner administration used emergency rulemaking powers to cut eligibility for the Child Care Assistance Program to 50 percent of the federal poverty line from 185 percent while the state lacked appropriations to fully fund the program. Over the weekend of Nov. 7, the administration negotiated a deal to change the rule to raise the eligibility threshold to 162 percent of the federal poverty line and lift other restrictions it had implemented. This deal came in the face of a vote on SB 570 and appeared to eliminate the need to run the bill, but House Democrats brought the bill up for a vote anyway in what many referred to as a bad-faith tactic after a deal had been negotiated. Republicans speculated during debate that this was a ploy to set up GOP members for a vote that looked bad in elections. The bill did not pass the House due to the actions of a sole Democrat, state Rep. Ken Dunkin of Chicago. Dunkin did not vote for the bill despite heavy pressure because he believed the good-faith deal with the administration was a victory for everyone.

• Appropriations: HB 4305, which would appropriate money from various special funds to its intended beneficiaries, passed the House in near-unanimous fashion on Nov. 10. The bill included payments for local governments, winners of the Illinois Lottery, and 911 administration. This bill did not appropriate any money from the General Revenue Fund. Although the governor previously opposed the bill, he conceded his previous proposals for local-government borrowing and gave his approval to the bill to get this money distributed. However, a Democrat-created roadblock stands between this vote and the bill becoming law. State Rep. Barbara Flynn Currie, D-Chicago, filed a curious “motion to reconsider,” which means the bill cannot move out of the House until she removes the barrier. Provided this obstacle is eliminated, the bill still needs to go to the Senate, which is not scheduled to meet again in 2015, even though Senate President John Cullerton could call a meeting to make sure this bill becomes law quickly. Thus, the funds that Democrats and Republicans agreed to distribute are being held up indefinitely.

• Nursing homes and at-home care: On Nov. 6, Rauner issued an amendatory veto of aHB 2482, a bill that would have eliminated his emergency rules regarding eligibility for nursing homes and at-home care. Rauner’s suggested changes were relatively mild and also backed off of his plan to recommend more difficult eligibility criteria based on a higher Determination of Need score for applicants. And yet, much like what happened with the Child Care Assistance Program, Democrats attempted to override the veto and push their bill forward, even though many believe the governor’s compromises were part of a deal to avoid such a vote. This controversial override also failed due to Dunkin standing for the negotiated deals.

• Unemployment insurance: The governor’s office worked with business and labor groups to create a negotiated reform package for unemployment insurance, an issue that has been a major component of Rauner’s Turnaround Agenda. The reform was a compromise that makes employees who committed misconduct or fraud ineligible for insurance while also making more generous unemployment insurance available to older workers who are simultaneously eligible for Social Security. This reform deal has yet to see any pushback.

For those looking for reasonable solutions in Springfield, the week of Nov. 8 certainly had its share of victories. On each of these issues, bipartisan discussions moved the ball forward when both sides were willing to come to the table.

But also present was a concerning undercurrent of pitting of good, bipartisan collaboration against political posturing and bad-faith negotiation. Illinoisans need more of what worked this week, rather than the political stunts that almost derailed real progress.

 

From above posts:

The department agrees that it will hold no fewer than three shooting events attracting in excess of 5000 persons to the complex annually.

What are those shoots?

 

The 3 shoots would be :

1. The grand in 2010, 2011, 2012 2013 ...

2. AIM shoots in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 ...

3. SCPT in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014 ..

They bunch them together to get to the numbers they want, they do not know what annually means , figure its for the term of the lease ... New Math ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

 

Thanks JHUNTS !

That was what I remembered.

I sort of guess after re-reading it, they must have meant an total of 5,000 people annually, not each shoot as I originally thought.

 

The way it reads is "The Dept agrees that it will hold no fewer than 3 shooting events attracting in excess of 5,000 persons to the facility" ....

I think that was supposed to read 5,000 per each of 3 shooting event's ... The ATA originally agreed to have 3 shoots per year per their agreement with the State of Illinois, can't imagine they would limit it to 5,000 or less for any good reason ... They all anticipated the place being over run with shooters, visitors, movie stars, Politicians as well as all of the ATA big shots ... I think" excess" should of been less than (typo..?) ... Have to find the agreement they had with the State to confirm it ... WPT ... (YAC) ....

 

Waiting for more costs to pop up soon. WIFI, sewage, security. Who else hasn't been paid.

 

Good thing the beagle field trials dont take much electric.