IDNR Chief Says Sparta Will Reopen

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  1. Seitz9010

    Seitz9010 Mega Poster

    The head of the IDNR met with the ATA leaders and said that they want to make some changes in the way the WSC is managed. So while he said it will close on Sept. 30 it will reopen as soon as the new budget is in place. I guess he's been given assurance by the Governor that everything will be OK. Until the new budget is in place I'm not sure how he would know everything will be OK. Usually, once a place closes it gets a little more difficult to bring it back as it was.
     
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  2. Leonidas

    Leonidas Mega Poster Founding Member

    That meeting was held today and the editor of the Randolph county Journal was invited to sit in. The next edition will be this Thursday.
     
  3. Ken Cerney

    Ken Cerney HOF Muscoda Gun Club Past Wisconsin Director Founding Member HOF Muscoda Gun Club

    I guess we will have to wait and see!!
     
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  4. smoking357

    smoking357 Mega Poster

    Who cares? It's still under threat. The ATA needs a contingency plan, right now. Contact all the Tier 1 sites I noted, and find one willing to step up an act as an alternate site by holding two weeks open. Let the shooters know as soon as possible there's a Plan B in place, if needed.

    If you don't need to use the other site, you praise them widely for their willingness to act as an alternate.

    Without a Plan B, you're in a horrible negotiating position with the State of Illinois.

    I think lots of folks just inherited land, money or connections from Daddy, because I see so much lack of common sense from people who are in positions where they ought to know better.
     
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  5. duffkjs06

    duffkjs06 Mega Poster

    You know, just because you don't know all the details of what is going on, doesn't mean those in charge don't know what they are doing, or don't have a plan B. Not to mention, just because the IDNR may see cuts, doesn't mean the trapshooting complex will be affected.
     
  6. Ken Cerney

    Ken Cerney HOF Muscoda Gun Club Past Wisconsin Director Founding Member HOF Muscoda Gun Club

    duffkjs06, If WE do not know everything that is going on with OUR organization who's fault is that. Leaders that won't share this information with the membership? Sounds like they don't know or too lazy to plan ahead, just wait and see attitude then act. 357 is right they need to set the wheels in motion and let us know what is going on with OUR organization.
     
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  7. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    The same thing happened with Meig's Field many years ago, once it closed it never reopened and got bull dozed ... Hope the WSRC does not meet the same fate, but you never know, you know ... I think part of the landing strip is still there .... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  8. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    Is there a plan B at Sparta for a Golf Course, by the IDNR for State Officials
     
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  9. duffkjs06

    duffkjs06 Mega Poster

    In a republic form of governing, the voters vote for others to make their decision for them. Do you know every intricacy of the US gov't, run the same way? They made their statement, they are probably not allowed to offer any more information at this time. This is nothing more than politics as usual, stop trying to read more into it then there is. How come no one is worried about the 500 other line items threatened with cuts?
     
  10. Ken Cerney

    Ken Cerney HOF Muscoda Gun Club Past Wisconsin Director Founding Member HOF Muscoda Gun Club

    duffkjs06,
    I don't live in Illinois anymore. I do have adult kids there. I do know they have already cut funding for thee state fire cadet school that is held in the late spring. My son and grand son had to pay double of what they paid last year, but the welfare program is fully funded. Furthermore the ATA is not as big as the US government so transparency is expected as business is small compared to the U.S.
     
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  11. oldphart

    oldphart Mega Poster Founding Member

    My oh my, It will be interesting to read what the reporter for the Randolf County Journal reports on the meeting in this Thursday's edition, maybe some facts that would be encouraging will be presented in the meantime we can speculate and gaze into our chrystal ball and tell each other what we see hopefully the news will be good for the ATA.
     
  12. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    Since when does a sport with responsible educated affluent members need to rely on the corruption of Chicago politics to survive? Not at the Cardinal Center. Not in my state. Not in PA. Not out of my tax dollars.

    With that logic plan B would be to make lovey with the politicians of NY.
     
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  13. smoking357

    smoking357 Mega Poster

    The entire idea behind a Plan B is to let the other side in a deal know you have one. Rauner is covering himself on the backside by keeping the ATA on the line in case he doesn't close the WSRC and needs a tenant. The ATA needs to have and announce a contingency plan if only to get better terms from Rauner.
     
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  14. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    Who is going to stop the Vandalism while it is closed to traps, Bldgs, Etc?
     
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  15. Leonidas

    Leonidas Mega Poster Founding Member

    Why,are you going to Sparta?
     
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  16. smoking357

    smoking357 Mega Poster

    Aren't you concerned about the condition and safety of your association's equipment?
     
  17. Family Guy

    Family Guy Mega Poster Founding Member

    If Sparta is closed has the State of Illinois stopped the lease agreements for the HOF and the ATA?

    If so does there have to be a new lease drawn up?
     
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  18. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    I wonder if the head of the IDNR knows he works for the State (Governors Office) of Illinois ..? Never step on the toes of a person who's azz you might have to kiss someday ... WPT ... (YAC) ...

    Sucking up is good, so shut up and enjoy the free ride ...
     
  19. smoking357

    smoking357 Mega Poster

    What was reported in the Thursday story?
     
  20. LadyT

    LadyT Mega Poster

    We are being told that Sparta will reopen after it's closed. That begs the question as to why must it close at all.
     
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  21. smoking357

    smoking357 Mega Poster

    So Governor Rauner is sending out layoff notices while simultaneously planning to keep it open?
     
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  22. huk

    huk Member

    Those pink slips were just in case.
     
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  23. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    I searched the States site again, nothing for sure either way other than the WSRC is going to close until there is an approved budget ... There was a signed petition (by Jerry Costillo (sp)) delivered to the Governor's Office (?) with almost 7,000 signatures on it, they say they wanted 10,000 so it obviously got circulated around town 3 times and the cemetary a couple of times ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  24. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

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  25. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    June 12, 2015



    Administration Initiates Additional Management Steps to Prepare for Madigan-Cullerton Budget


    Steps to Save Additional $420 Million
    Cancel Funding for Legislative Earmarks
    Freeze Non-Transportation Capital Projects


    Contact
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    House Speaker Mike Madigan, Senate President John Cullerton and their caucuses two weeks ago finished passing a budget with a $4 billion hole.

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    Department of Natural Resources

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    Department of Agriculture

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    Department of State Police

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    • Suspend the following legislative earmarks:
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    Department of Human Services

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    Department of Public Health

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    The more they look the worse it looks ... All the news , all the time ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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  26. Zealot

    Zealot Active Member

    ?
     
  27. Zealot

    Zealot Active Member

    What became of the governor's helicoptor trip to the Grand? Must have been suspended also.
     
  28. wpt

    wpt Forum Leader Founding Member Forum Leader

    Zealot, Didn't hear about that one, probably had no fuel in the thing and couldn't make it ... (Just a guess) ... There was a broadcast on one of the Chgo news channels the Governor planned on doing a fly over (didn't mention Helicopter ) but with all of the planes around that HUB in Sparta, he may not of made it ... You might want to research it, think he was WGN, I was told about it do not even watch their news anymore, been gone from there for over 20 years ... ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  29. Zealot

    Zealot Active Member

    He could have taken a hot air balloon. I know of at least one official, that if invited, could have helped keep it aloft.