How could this happen ?

Was looking at shoot results @ the FL. State Shoot & noticed in event 3, a shooter with a 100 was beat out by a shooter with a 98 for Vet. category.

 

Forfeit?

 

How can u forfeit when you have the higher score?

 

He did not show up for a shoot off, then could not fall back for class or category is my guess?

 

I may be wrong about this scenario. I'm cat chair shooter. If I go to a large shoot and break 100, I win chair cat only, not the event winner. Does not seem fair to me.

 

I could not imagine how that could have happened. I'll be interested in reading more comment here

 

It looks like an oversight to me. This was a carryover and the shooter in question did not shoot the next like event. There’s nothing that I can find in the rulebook that directly addresses this scenario but I would interpret a no-show for a carryover event would be the same as not answering a true shoot-off call. In that case, I would think the “forfeit” for event champ should then fall back to category.

 

98's never beat 100's some one messed up. 100.s and 98's never shoot off against each other. If the 100 won a shoot off then a 98 is apt to win the catagory trophy. but the 100 had to win the champion spot. for the 98 to prevail. Roger C.

 

You can be winner. If your score does not qualify for winner you fall to chair. If your score does not qualify for chair, you fall to class. More than fair. You get three bites at it. The rest of us non category shooters get two.

 

Here is why this happened. The 100 in vet tied for champion and since he tied and shoots off he must accept the result. His shoot off was a forfeit so he ended with no award. However you would think shoot management would make him the vet. champion.

 

Not possible, can't fall back to category if tied for championship those are the rules can't go to class either.

 

Read the rules again. Section X, D, 3-4 (p. 35):

3. Any shooter who is tied for event Champion may shoot-off/carry-over for the Championship trophy. If a shooter fails in the championship trophy shoot-off/carry-over and has declared a special category at the time of classification, the shooter will fall back to the declared special category.

4. Any shooter who has declared a special category at the time of classification and whose score qualifies for any trophy in his/her declared category, will compete for the category trophy and not for place, class or yardage group. If there is no Event Champion Trophy, a declared Category shooter will take the Category Trophy and may not fall back to the Class Trophy.

 

He should be category champion

 

it was in the program, if you no show the shoot off, you forfeit.

 

The forfeit was for champion. He should have fell back to category per the rules stated above.

 

You'd think the ATA would have figured this out a long time ago, and make it clear to all members.
I'm reminded of another reason why I did not renew my ATA membership last year.

 

My son lost a class trophy at the Camas Prairie a few weeks ago by tieing in category and losing the shootoff. Doesn't quite seem right, but we are glad to follow the rules.

 

You are supposed to be able to fall back if you loose a shoot off for champion. Check to rule . Roger C.