1. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    I have owned 3 different Ithaca/Perazzi TM1's over the years. In 1977 a used 32". In 1978 a new 34". And a couple of years ago another 34". All had coil triggers. Bought em, shot em, sold em.

    Every time I get the bug to go back on the circuit I keep going back to a TM1. Found one that I'm trying to get the info and more pics on. The seller says it is an Ithaca import with a leaf spring so I wanted to know what year Perazzi went from the leaf to a coil. Since I bought my first one in 1977 I "assumed" the leaf spring was prior to the coil.

    I have an MX8 with leafs so I really don't care which one is in the TM1, just curious about how old the trigger might be and if any of you "old has been" shooters can tell me if they thought one TM1 trigger was better than the other.

    Thanks
     
  2. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Moderator

    I've had both and couldn't tell a nickels worth of difference in shooting them!

    HAP
     
  3. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Thanks Hap
     
  4. T.P.S.

    T.P.S. Mega Poster Founding Member

    Their was no designated time that they made them, you could have received them either way. I have had them both and really can not tell the difference, but here is what I can tell you is when the leaf's break you are done shooting, when the coil starts to get bad they still fire and the trigger gets a little play. Tommy
     
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  5. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Moderator

    I agree with Tommy on the difference between the two types. Leaf spring breaks and your down till fixed. The coil spring will sneak up on you as it loses tension in the amount of finger pressure it takes to fire your gun! Some may read this difference as a flinch but it certainly isn't. We become accustomed to a certain amount of finger travel and pressure to fire the gun it comes as a total surprise when it doesn't fire. Most will think "dreaded flinch" but a new coil spring clears the air instantly!

    Once I learned that lesson, I replaced the coil spring depending on the amount of cycles the spring had or yearly! I also replace the leaf springs before they break! I stand an old spring on a flat surface and compare the difference with a new leaf spring. The old spring will have a different measurement on the spring ends not measuring the same as a new one. This method has worked well for me for several years!

    HAP
     
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  6. Flyersarebest

    Flyersarebest Moderator Founding Member Forum Leader

    Thanks guys,
    That is what I always thought Hap. I had a leaf brake in the top barrel of my MX8 and I couldn't tell anything was wrong until the thing wouldn't fire on the second shot of a $50.00 miss and out.
    Yep, feathered him on the first and watched as he flew out.

    I had a coil go on my first TM1 a thousand years ago and could tell something was up when the trigger started to feel different. The lucky thing was it was at the Grand in Vandalia and we were about two traps away from the Ithaca/Perazzi building. They put a new spring in while I waited between traps.
     
  7. dr.longshot

    dr.longshot Grudge Match Champion Founding Member Forum Leader Grudge Match Champion

    Flyers I feel and have always felt the Leaf spring was best, I feel it has faster Hammer fall and faster lock time, when the leaf gets bad a crack starts, then breaks and you are done. All of my TM-1s had leaf springs. I tried to buy one back that I won the mini Calcutta 17 weeks in a row. Bob Cool owned it but when he passed his widow sold the gun, and that guy would not part with it, he passed also.

    Gary Bryant............................Dr.longshot